I've managed to install Internet Explorer 6 using wine-sidenet-config, since it won't work just by type "wine ie6setup.exe". I had to copy the fonts to c:\windows\fonts from a working windows installation, otherwise you won't see the characters. The problem now is that ie can't reach sites like www.google.com. I've read that you should install dcom98 before that, but you won't be able to do that because this version of wine identifies itself with windows nt. Any workaround? Apart from this problem, I'm really puzzled at the poor usability of this software. I mean, programs like Internet Explorer should be the first thing that developers should make sure to be workable. The fact that just typing "wine ie6setup.exe" yields an error gives a really bad impression on this software as a whole. I know that the developers aren't working for money, but if they are doing this they should first concentrate on making a stable core of basic programs to work (IE, outlook, office), before giving thought to other applications. No offence meant for anybody.
Le lundi 10 octobre 2005 ? 09:47 +0200, Giulio Ferro a ?crit :> Any workaround? > > Apart from this problem, I'm really puzzled at the poor usability of > this software. > I mean, programs like Internet Explorer should be the first thing that > developers > should make sure to be workable. The fact that just typing "wine > ie6setup.exe" yieldsWhy ? There are superior browsers to replace IE under linux. Priority should be given to aplications that don't have a valid alternative under Linux. (Yes I know that some sites requires IE and that webdeveloppers have a natural interest into tesing their websites into crippled software).> an error gives a really bad impression on this software as a whole. I > know that the > developers aren't working for money, but if they are doing this they > should first > concentrate on making a stable core of basic programs to work (IE, > outlook, office), before > giving thought to other applications.You have to understand that developpers don't take an application and try to make it work. They are implementing a set of features and when the features required by an application are sufficiently implemented, the application starts to work. Best regards. -- Jonathan Ernst <Jonathan@ErnstFamily.ch> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/attachments/20051010/3d06130b/attachment-0001.pgp
On 10/10/05, Giulio Ferro <auryn@zirakzigil.org> wrote:> Apart from this problem, I'm really puzzled at the poor usability of > this software. I mean, programs like Internet Explorer should be > the first thing that developers should make sure to be workable. > The fact that just typing "wine ie6setup.exe" yields > an error gives a really bad impression on this software as a whole. > I know that the developers aren't working for money, but if they are > doing this they should first concentrate on making a stable core of > basic programs to work (IE, outlook, office), before > giving thought to other applications.IE turns out to be a very difficult program to support. Perhaps Wine should put up a warning dialog box if users try to install it. Giulio, perhaps you could help solve the problem by purchasing support for Wine. That would help the developers work to solve the problems you care most about. Failing that, you'll just have to trust that they're attacking problems in a sensible order. - Dan
Giulio Ferro wrote:> I've managed to install Internet Explorer 6 using wine-sidenet-config, > since > it won't work just by type "wine ie6setup.exe". I had to copy the fonts to > c:\windows\fonts from a working windows installation, otherwise you won't > see the characters. > > The problem now is that ie can't reach sites like www.google.com. I've read > that you should install dcom98 before that, but you won't be able to do > that because > this version of wine identifies itself with windows nt. > > Any workaround? > > Apart from this problem, I'm really puzzled at the poor usability of > this software. > I mean, programs like Internet Explorer should be the first thing that > developers > should make sure to be workable. The fact that just typing "wine > ie6setup.exe" yields > an error gives a really bad impression on this software as a whole. I > know that the > developers aren't working for money, but if they are doing this they > should first > concentrate on making a stable core of basic programs to work (IE, > outlook, office), before > giving thought to other applications. > > No offence meant for anybody.Although I think I cannot complain because wine is free; and moreover I don't want to offense anybody. I must say that I agree with you about the unusability of wine. I have tried to install ie6, wordview and although I see succefull report that these apps should work, it never works for me (the ie6setup crash, wordview 2003 open a word document but crash a few second after opening it). There is a commercial version of wine (crossover http://www.codeweavers.com) where supported applications reallly works (not every applications works, but if an application is said to be working, it really works; which is far to be the case for wine). What I don't understand is that I think that all change made by codeweavers to the wine libraries are covered by the LGPL licence, so I ask the question why wine can't just work as good as crossover. Olive