wine users - Oct 2005 - What Windows apps stand in the way of switching to Linux at your shop?

http://kegel.com/wine/qa/#app is a list of "must-have"
Windows applications for various vertical markets
(at the moment, just k12 schools and churches).
These are the Windows apps that really keep a school,
church, or other organization from switching to Linux.

I'm hoping that this list will help focus Wine QA on
those key Windows apps, and thereby increase the
number of groups who can make the jump to Linux.

If you have any suggestions for the list, please let me know.

Thanks,
Dan

In two jobs I had, netmeeting 3.0 is the single most important
application that kept the organization from switching.

2005/10/6, Dan Kegel <daniel.r.kegel@gmail.com>:
> http://kegel.com/wine/qa/#app is a list of "must-have"
> Windows applications for various vertical markets
> (at the moment, just k12 schools and churches).
> These are the Windows apps that really keep a school,
> church, or other organization from switching to Linux.
>
> I'm hoping that this list will help focus Wine QA on
> those key Windows apps, and thereby increase the
> number of groups who can make the jump to Linux.
>
> If you have any suggestions for the list, please let me know.
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On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:43:06 -0300, Cl?udio Sampaio
wrote:
> In two jobs I had, netmeeting 3.0 is the single most important application
> that kept the organization from switching.
What did it do that GnomeMeeting cannot - desktop sharing?

Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0.

On 10/6/05, Dan Kegel <daniel.r.kegel@gmail.com>
wrote:
> http://kegel.com/wine/qa/#app is a list of "must-have"
> Windows applications for various vertical markets
> (at the moment, just k12 schools and churches).
> These are the Windows apps that really keep a school,
> church, or other organization from switching to Linux.
>
> I'm hoping that this list will help focus Wine QA on
> those key Windows apps, and thereby increase the
> number of groups who can make the jump to Linux.
>
> If you have any suggestions for the list, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
There are 3 reasons that I have a KVM with Windows XP on the 'other
box':

1) There just doesn't seem to be a program that handles IPTC data in
digital photos well. So I use BrilliantPhoto in XP. I don't care about
open source in this field- give me a good program and I will pay $30
for it! BrilliantPhoto would not run for me in wine. But that was half
a year ago and I have yet to try again. I got the installed to run,
but could not run the program. If anybody wants to take a crack at it,
I'd appreciate it.

2) Amarok just doesn't cut it for music managment. And many of my
mp3's have Hebrew titles, which Amakok refused to display properly
(This may be because the file names were created on a FAT32 drive
running windows. I haven't check that yet.). And, sorry, but
Microsoft's Media Player 10 is probably the best peice of software to
ever come out of Redmond. So that too is on the 'other box'.

3) There are times when i need to run a windows app. Just this week, I
had to convert some mp3's to AMR format. Try finding a linux program
to do that!

Dotan Cohen
http://technology-sleuth.com/internet/firewall.php
Internet Firewalls

> On 10/6/05, drescher0110-lists@yahoo.com
> <drescher0110-lists@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I just tested [Visual C++ 6.0] on the latest wine
> and on my setup it
> > worked only partially. The install failed
> completly
> 
> Can you file a bug in wine bugzilla, please?
> Or at least add a comment to
> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=31
> 
> > so
> >  I copied an installed version from an XP install.
> I
> > was able to get the GUI to work but it crashes at
> > random and the and it also freezes updates very
> easy
> > making it totally unusable for me.
> 
> Sounds pretty bad.  Again, please note that either
> in Bugzilla or the Appdb.
> 
I did some testing this evening and found that one of
the bugs was a result of a Microsoft bug that I have
seen quite a few times but the GUI reacted a little
different so I did not suspect it. This bug is
sometimes the .ncb file of a project gets corrupted
causing Visual Studio to hang with 100% cpu. The
difference in wine is that during the hang I can
resize the window but it does not correctly refresh.
After delting the .ncb file I was able to load my
workspace but had a path problem when I tried to
compile (probably nothing to do with wine again) so I
decided to try a simple test. I tried to create a new
win32 console application with mfc support. After the
final step in the appwizard the porgram hung. In the
terminal I launched msdev from there was the following
errors:

err:heap:HEAP_ValidateInUseArena Heap 0x7fcf0000:
in-use arena 0x7e1fc348 next block has PREV_FREE flag
err:seh:setup_exception stack overflow 180 bytes in
thread 0032 eip 7ffc1d36 esp 7fb00f4c stack
0x7fb00000-0x7fc00000

I would like install VC clean on windows and use this
clean copy to test to see if that makes any difference
before I start a bug report the only problem is that I
am just about out of space so that will have to wait
until I upgrade my system this weekend. 

John

On 2005-10-06, Dan Kegel <daniel.r.kegel@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I'm hoping that this list will help focus Wine QA on
> those key Windows apps, and thereby increase the
> number of groups who can make the jump to Linux.
>
> If you have any suggestions for the list, please let me know.
PPLive is a free Shareware for online TV programs. 

http://www5.pplive.com/english/

It starts ok but always fails to connect.

Hello Dan,

Dan Kegel wrote:
> http://kegel.com/wine/qa/#app is a list of "must-have"
> Windows applications for various vertical markets
> (at the moment, just k12 schools and churches).
That's an odd choice of market segments?
> If you have any suggestions for the list, please let me know.
I do, but it's not for K12 or churches.
Do you want them anyway?