wine users - Feb 2005 - Newbie: Running an application within wine (installed fine)

I had successfully installed BrilliantPhoto with wine, so that I have
the directory:
file:/home/dotancohen/.wine/c/Program Files/Brilliant Labs/BrilliantPhoto
but when I run the command
wine /home/dotancohen/.wine/c/Program\ Files/Brilliant\
Labs/BrilliantPhoto/BrilliantPhoto.exe
it justs sits there with no output until I ctrl-Z it. Silly me, I even
tried to click the icon in Konqueror to start the program (I can start
IE6 this way).

I just installed wine (with apt, version 20041201) and winetools
within the last few hours, and between what I've see on this list the
past few weeks (I subscribed in December) and google, well, I know
nothing! I'm on Fedora Core 3 in KDE on a AMD Duron 1 ghz machine with
512mb ram and a noisy fan.

Thank you in advance!

Dotan Cohen

???? ??? wrote:
> I had successfully installed BrilliantPhoto with wine, so that I have
> the directory:
> file:/home/dotancohen/.wine/c/Program Files/Brilliant Labs/BrilliantPhoto
> but when I run the command
> wine /home/dotancohen/.wine/c/Program\ Files/Brilliant\
> Labs/BrilliantPhoto/BrilliantPhoto.exe
> it justs sits there with no output until I ctrl-Z it. Silly me, I even
> tried to click the icon in Konqueror to start the program (I can start
> IE6 this way).
> 
> I just installed wine (with apt, version 20041201) and winetools
> within the last few hours, and between what I've see on this list the
> past few weeks (I subscribed in December) and google, well, I know
> nothing! I'm on Fedora Core 3 in KDE on a AMD Duron 1 ghz machine with
> 512mb ram and a noisy fan.
> 
> Thank you in advance!
> 
> Dotan Cohen
Some programs don't like to run via a full path; what happens if you cd 
to the Brilliant Photo directory first, then run

wine BrilliantPhoto.exe

?

I have a couple of apps that run fine when the app is run from within 
the program directory, but fail to run otherwise (even from the program 
menu link created by Wine during the program's install).

HTH,
Holly

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???? ??? wrote:
> I just tried- nothing. I just sit and wait. No output, nothing.
> 
> Where is this menu link that you mention? I see none in the KDE menu,
> is this the menu that you mean?
I'm using wine 20050111 with SuSE 9.2, and I was surprised as well when 
I installed Planescape: Torment and suddenly I had a Wine folder in the 
KDE menu, with a link to the program, with an icon, even (!!!).

I have to assume this is a new functionality of Wine, or possibly a 
"special" quality related to SuSE (which loves KDE a great deal, and 
integrates a lot of 'internal functions' with it). If a new function of 
Wine, then perhaps an upgrade will enable it; if specific to the SuSE 
package, then I'm just lucky :-) .

In any case, the fact that this lovely link exists yet does not work for 
me (I had to write a little shell script that cds to the program 
directory, then runs the main executable with wine, otherwise the 
program gives an error and will not start) is of no use to you if your 
program will not start nor give output even when started directly from 
within the program's install folder.

However, the fact that it isn't working could be due to a couple of factors:

1) How are you stopping the process when the program fails to start? Is 
there possibly a wineserver still running from a previous failed 
attempt? Please check a process monitor such as KDE System Guard and 
kill any wineservers or leftover running Wine processes before trying 
again to run the program from its install directory.

2) The fact that no output whatsoever is being produced is suspicious, 
insofar as it suggests that the program is not crashing (in which case 
there would be output of some sort), but stuck somewhere along the way 
to running.

Does this program need to contact some external device such as a scanner 
or camera before starting?

You are running these commands from a terminal, correct?

HTH,
Holly

> 
> Dotan
> 
> 
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 22:23:36 +0100, Holly Bostick <motub@planet.nl>
wrote:
>>???????? ?????? wrote:
>>>I had successfully installed BrilliantPhoto with wine, so that I
have
>>>the directory:
>>>file:/home/dotancohen/.wine/c/Program Files/Brilliant
Labs/BrilliantPhoto
>>>but when I run the command
>>>wine /home/dotancohen/.wine/c/Program\ Files/Brilliant\
>>>Labs/BrilliantPhoto/BrilliantPhoto.exe
>>>it justs sits there with no output until I ctrl-Z it. Silly me, I
even
>>>tried to click the icon in Konqueror to start the program (I can
start
>>>IE6 this way).
>>>
>>>I just installed wine (with apt, version 20041201) and winetools
>>>within the last few hours, and between what I've see on this
list the
>>>past few weeks (I subscribed in December) and google, well, I know
>>>nothing! I'm on Fedora Core 3 in KDE on a AMD Duron 1 ghz
machine with
>>>512mb ram and a noisy fan.
>>>
>>>Thank you in advance!
>>>
>>>Dotan Cohen
>>Some programs don't like to run via a full path; what happens if you
cd
>>to the Brilliant Photo directory first, then run
>>
>>wine BrilliantPhoto.exe
>>
>>?
>>
>>I have a couple of apps that run fine when the app is run from within
>>the program directory, but fail to run otherwise (even from the program
>>menu link created by Wine during the program's install).
>>
>>HTH,
>>Holly
>>
>

d
> Very good. Nice would be if you had a name instead of ????????? set in
> your mailer... some spamblockers will filter you out ;-)
I changed my name in preferences to it's English spelling- no more
???? for you guys!

> Ctrl-Z just STOPS a program, normally it does not kill it. It is just
> waiting for being resumed, e.g. by a command "fg" for
"foreground". To
> kill a program, you have to Ctrl-C on the cosole where it is running or
> killing it by the command killall <progname>.
I cannot ctrl-Z it (does nothing). And I have no place to type the
command killall

> So you exactly know now the meaning of "jobs". You can read about
that
> using "man jobs" which will lead you to the bash builtin commands
man
> page.
Love the man!

> I think your question was about brilliantphoto and I tested it very
> shortly. It does not work. It opens a second thread and seems to
> communicate with itself until the last day of mankind.
Um, this is bad, no? Have any other programs that have done this
before been broken of this habit? How is this too be handled?

The truth is, this is an app that I use a lot- just for personal use,
but as we mostly use the copmputer for internet, music, videos, and
photos, I have a hard time convincing she-who-must-be-obeyed (as I saw
another poster refer to his counterpart of similar nature) that we
don't need windows. She's a diehard IE girl, loves Windows Media
Player (well, I like it too), and BrilliantPhoto really makes image
managment a breeze. So I'd REALLY LIKE to get this working, as I'm
-forcing- Firefox and Amarok on her...

Unless someone could suggest an imange managment program in linux that
supports the IPTC metadata that we added with BrilliantPhoto?

Thank you, all of you. I hope that I didn't get too carried away and
off-topc with that last question.

> "Never touch a running system! Never run a touching system?
>           Never run a touchy system!!!"
Don't like to run them, but sometimes feel like throwing it...

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:04:10 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Um, this is bad, no? 
Wine does not currently support the Armadillo copy protection system,
sorry.
> Have any other programs that have done this before 
> been broken of this habit? 
No.
> How is this to be handled?
We (the Wine developer team) need to get my SetThreadContext patch merged.
That means convincing Alexandre that there are no race conditions in the
patch. For now you can apply this to your local Wine copy and see if it
gets any further (but I seem to remember that it hits another problem
later):

http://navi.cx/svn/misc/trunk/winekb/patches/thread-context.patch

thanks -mike

Oh, I forgot to mention, if you apply my patch you must run
tools/make_requests to regen the server RPC files. Do that before typing
"make"

thanks -mike

--- Mike Hearn <mike@navi.cx> a ?crit : 
> Oh, I forgot to mention, if you apply my patch you must run
> tools/make_requests to regen the server RPC files. Do that before typing
> "make"
> 
> thanks -mike
hi mike,
if I had a correct look at http://cvs.winehq.org/cvsweb/tools/,
there is no make_requests here.
It seems something is missing in your patch, if tools/make_requests is supposed
to belong to it.

Could you confirm and post updated/needed another patch ?

====Usurp (aka Sylvain Petreolle)
humans are like computers,
yesterday the BIOS was all
- today its just a word