David F. Colwell
2005-May-09 19:53 UTC
[Wine]Re: APPDB: Half-Life and Counter-Strike with WINE
Hiji wrote:>--- "David F. Colwell" <dfcolwell@dfcolwell.com> >wrote: > > >>Hiji et al, >> >>Couldn't find Half-Life or Counter-Strike in the DB >>yet they returned... >> >>Submitted version rejected >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------- > > >>The version you submitted ( 1.0.0.0) has been >>rejected.This application is already in the >>database. If you are interested in helping out with >>the howto please sign up to be a maintainer of the >>application. Thanks. >>We appreciate your help in making the Version >>Database better for all users. >> >>Best regards. >>The AppDB team >>http://www.winehq.org/ >> >> >>I did my part. :-) >> >> > > > >>On Monday 09 May 2005 7:40 pm, Hiji wrote: >> >> >>>Any ideas? (I'm forwarding the message, so, it >>>defaults to showing below my message. Sorry!) :( >>> >>> > >--- Chris Morgan <cmorgan@alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > > >>I plugged 'half-life' into the search box and got: >> >>http://appdb.winehq.org/search.php?q=half-life >> >>Looks like its working here. What did you search >>for? >> >>I just added 'halflife' as a keyword to the >>half-life application so searching >>for 'halflife' also returns the appropriate results. >> >>Chris >> >> > >I found it too, but I believe the problem was that he >was trying to add a specific version (1.0.0.0), and he >got the error. The versions I see on there are >1.1.0.8 and 1.1.1.0 > >David, can you elaborate for us? > >Hiji > > > >Yahoo! Mail >Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: >http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html > > > >Roger that. I have version 1.0.0.0 of CS and submitted it as such. I entered version "1" of HL having not readily found the version. After more searching I now find I have version 1.0.0.9 Nevertheless, should the CS have been rejected? I see the DB now and I probably didn't submit well. I pasted my original mail to wine-users@winehq.org in the description portion of the form and then got lazy and said "see above" in the following section.
Chris Morgan
2005-May-09 21:35 UTC
[Wine]Re: APPDB: Half-Life and Counter-Strike with WINE
If you would like to submit a version please do so. In your case you submitted an entire application that was a duplicate, and when I rejected it the version submission implicitly created when submitting an application was also deleted. If there was a particular place that was confusing please mention it, we want to ensure that the appdb documentation is as clear as possible. Do we even need to have the retail version of CS in appdb? Nearly all CS servers upgrade when new versions come out as bugs and exploits are fixed in older versions. I don't think we want to list every version that CS has ever released, this means we would have a forum, description and an entry for each CS release? That seems like a bit much. Typically we bundle similar versions together. If you would like to add specific testing results for the retail version I think you should do so in the existing Counter-Strike version entry. A common method is a table similar to that in the version template where the first column is the version of CS, the second the version of wine and the rest like the normal testing table. Chris On Monday 09 May 2005 8:53 pm, David F. Colwell wrote:> Hiji wrote: > >--- "David F. Colwell" <dfcolwell@dfcolwell.com> > > > >wrote: > >>Hiji et al, > >> > >>Couldn't find Half-Life or Counter-Strike in the DB > >>yet they returned... > >> > >>Submitted version rejected > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>The version you submitted ( 1.0.0.0) has been > >>rejected.This application is already in the > >>database. If you are interested in helping out with > >>the howto please sign up to be a maintainer of the > >>application. Thanks. > >>We appreciate your help in making the Version > >>Database better for all users. > >> > >>Best regards. > >>The AppDB team > >>http://www.winehq.org/ > >> > >> > >>I did my part. :-) > >> > >>On Monday 09 May 2005 7:40 pm, Hiji wrote: > >>>Any ideas? (I'm forwarding the message, so, it > >>>defaults to showing below my message. Sorry!) :( > > > >--- Chris Morgan <cmorgan@alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > >>I plugged 'half-life' into the search box and got: > >> > >>http://appdb.winehq.org/search.php?q=half-life > >> > >>Looks like its working here. What did you search > >>for? > >> > >>I just added 'halflife' as a keyword to the > >>half-life application so searching > >>for 'halflife' also returns the appropriate results. > >> > >>Chris > > > >I found it too, but I believe the problem was that he > >was trying to add a specific version (1.0.0.0), and he > >got the error. The versions I see on there are > >1.1.0.8 and 1.1.1.0 > > > >David, can you elaborate for us? > > > >Hiji > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Mail > >Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: > >http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html > > Roger that. I have version 1.0.0.0 of CS and submitted it as such. I > entered version "1" of HL having not readily found the version. After > more searching I now find I have version 1.0.0.9 Nevertheless, should > the CS have been rejected? I see the DB now and I probably didn't > submit well. I pasted my original mail to wine-users@winehq.org in the > description portion of the form and then got lazy and said "see above" > in the following section.
David F. Colwell
2005-May-10 08:33 UTC
[Wine]Re: APPDB: Half-Life and Counter-Strike with WINE
Chris Morgan wrote:>If you would like to submit a version please do so. In your case you >submitted an entire application that was a duplicate, and when I rejected it >the version submission implicitly created when submitting an application was >also deleted. If there was a particular place that was confusing please >mention it, we want to ensure that the appdb documentation is as clear as >possible. > >Do we even need to have the retail version of CS in appdb? Nearly all CS >servers upgrade when new versions come out as bugs and exploits are fixed in >older versions. I don't think we want to list every version that CS has ever >released, this means we would have a forum, description and an entry for each >CS release? That seems like a bit much. Typically we bundle similar >versions together. If you would like to add specific testing results for the >retail version I think you should do so in the existing Counter-Strike >version entry. A common method is a table similar to that in the version >template where the first column is the version of CS, the second the version >of wine and the rest like the normal testing table. > >Chris > > >On Monday 09 May 2005 8:53 pm, David F. Colwell wrote: > > >>Hiji wrote: >> >> >>>--- "David F. Colwell" <dfcolwell@dfcolwell.com> >>> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hiji et al, >>>> >>>>Couldn't find Half-Life or Counter-Strike in the DB >>>>yet they returned... >>>> >>>>Submitted version rejected >>>> >>>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>>>The version you submitted ( 1.0.0.0) has been >>>>rejected.This application is already in the >>>>database. If you are interested in helping out with >>>>the howto please sign up to be a maintainer of the >>>>application. Thanks. >>>>We appreciate your help in making the Version >>>>Database better for all users. >>>> >>>>Best regards. >>>>The AppDB team >>>>http://www.winehq.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>>I did my part. :-) >>>> >>>>On Monday 09 May 2005 7:40 pm, Hiji wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Any ideas? (I'm forwarding the message, so, it >>>>>defaults to showing below my message. Sorry!) :( >>>>> >>>>> >>>--- Chris Morgan <cmorgan@alum.wpi.edu> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I plugged 'half-life' into the search box and got: >>>> >>>>http://appdb.winehq.org/search.php?q=half-life >>>> >>>>Looks like its working here. What did you search >>>>for? >>>> >>>>I just added 'halflife' as a keyword to the >>>>half-life application so searching >>>>for 'halflife' also returns the appropriate results. >>>> >>>>Chris >>>> >>>> >>>I found it too, but I believe the problem was that he >>>was trying to add a specific version (1.0.0.0), and he >>>got the error. The versions I see on there are >>>1.1.0.8 and 1.1.1.0 >>> >>>David, can you elaborate for us? >>> >>>Hiji >>> >>> >>> >>>Yahoo! Mail >>>Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: >>>http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html >>> >>> >>Roger that. I have version 1.0.0.0 of CS and submitted it as such. I >>entered version "1" of HL having not readily found the version. After >>more searching I now find I have version 1.0.0.9 Nevertheless, should >>the CS have been rejected? I see the DB now and I probably didn't >>submit well. I pasted my original mail to wine-users@winehq.org in the >>description portion of the form and then got lazy and said "see above" >>in the following section. >> >> > > >My only thoughts are that as time goes by, older, retail, CD, versions may be played by more people simply because they have the CD and WON/update servers are down. The games are still as playable as when they were introduced. In a restricted environment like a LAN one might expect less or no cheats/hacks to sour the play of a game like Counter-Strike. Therefore, making it more enjoyable. An old game played by someone for the first time is still a new game to them. I assumed the DB was expected to be exhaustive. If not, my apologies. My intent on submitting my findings to wine-users@winehq.org was to share them with anyone who, like me, dug up an old CD for their kids to play. Since it cost me a couple of hours of futzing, I thought I might save others the trouble. It is my belief that if one person is doing something, then a couple of hundred others are too. It looks like I must become a maintainer to add the version. By the standard listed in http://appdb.winehq.org/help/?topic=maintainer_guidelines I do not qualify as I don't intend to run the app regularly. So I hope my post to wine-users@winehq.org is sufficient. Cheers.