Hi, the Wine program seems great. I run Eudora in WinXP, and this program will enable me to run Eudora in Fedora 3 and use the same mailboxes via Captive-NTFS - and so I will always have my email up-to-date. I have one big concern: viruses. Is it possible for me to get infected with a virus using Wine? If I got infected, how well could the virus infect my system? Meaning, I plan to install Captive-NTFS , so if I have a virus, could it write to relevent Windows files etc. on my mounted NTFS partition? If I get a virus, how easy would it be to clean it - could I just run like AVG or something and that would take care of it? (I'm still getting used to Linux!) Thanks a ton!! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005
?B?? ???th??? wrote:> Hi, the Wine program seems great. I run Eudora in WinXP, and this > program will enable me to run Eudora in Fedora 3 and use the same > mailboxes via Captive-NTFS - and so I will always have my email up-to-date.Beware : there still ain't a free (as in speech) ntfs filesystem, and I'm a bit wary of growing dependant of a closed-source kernel module...> I have one big concern: viruses. Is it possible for me to get infected > with a virus using Wine?Someone posted recently (either here or on news:comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine) that he had been able to get a Windows virus running on his/her wine installation. So it is possible> If I got infected, how well could the virus > infect my system? Meaning, I plan to install Captive-NTFS , so if I > have a virus, could it write to relevent Windows files etc. on my > mounted NTFS partition?That depends on the (non-existent) goodwill of the virus and the way your NT|XP partition is configuured. if your Windows ID has no "System administrator" privilege and Captive-NTFS is correctly written, then a virus could be content with f*cking up royally your user data. OTOH, if you're running under a privileged account OR there is a security hole in Captive-NTFS, your whole NTFS patition is (potential) dogmeat...> If I get a virus, how easy would it be to clean > it - could I just run like AVG or something and that would take care of it?[ Diaclaimer : No direct experience or knowledge ! ] I strongly doubt that your vanilla Windows antivirus would run on wine : these programs try to trap a lot of "interesting" system and library calls and check them. I doubt that such traps can be installed the same way on Windows and Wine. May I suggest to reverse your setup, and to install an ext2/3 filesystem driver on your Windows partition and to install your shared (Windows|Linux) fileson such a partition, safely readable/writable from Linux and Windows (as far as ona can do something safely on Windows, of course...). A much better way indeed is to install an IMAP server on another "service" machine, which can be a very small machine (your junior son's leftover may be fine) : leave your mail *here* and use it transparently from any machine that happens to be abe to reach this miniserver. Said miniserver can also be used as a firewall, as a print server, etc ... Quite useful in many ways... Complement : use Linux apps for as many tasks as possible, Wine for as much as possible, and revert to Windows if and only if a serious effort does not lead to a working Linux solution. For now, the only thing I can't do under Linux is voice dictation in French (I tried hard, got working solutions in English, but not in French). I need wine mainly for opening Access databases (immediately porting the data to Postgres...), to check Access forms and Word complex page layouts. All the rest is done under Linux apps, with one pesky exception : damb IE-only Web forms (thank you, lazy|dummy Web jocks !), which force me to launch IE6. All the rest is done with Linux apps, which give better results 90-95% of thez times. Now, if I could convince Dragon Naturally speaking to install correctly under wine ... Hope this helps. Emmanuel Charpentier
?B?? ???th??? wrote:> Hi, the Wine program seems great. I run Eudora in WinXP, and this > program will enable me to run Eudora in Fedora 3 and use the same > mailboxes via Captive-NTFS - and so I will always have my email up-to-date. > > I have one big concern: viruses. Is it possible for me to get infected > with a virus using Wine? If I got infected, how well could the virus > infect my system? Meaning, I plan to install Captive-NTFS , so if I > have a virus, could it write to relevent Windows files etc. on my > mounted NTFS partition? If I get a virus, how easy would it be to clean > it - could I just run like AVG or something and that would take care of it? > > (I'm still getting used to Linux!) > > Thanks a ton!!It really depends - if the virus uses a kernel issue changes are small it'll work on Wine (as the change of having exactly the same mistake in both windows kernel code and wine code is, well, small ;)) - but if it's using bugs of the program being run than it might work just the same as on a real windows environment. Using a fake windows directory is encouraged as Wine might otherwise have troubled with windows registeries being filled with unknown trash; also by using one or multiple fake windows directories, you can avoid loosing any real information caused by virus activity - then, if you got infected, you'd just remove the infected directories and grab the fresh copy
>?B?? ???th??? wrote: > Beware : there still ain't a free (as in speech) > ntfs filesystem, and I'm a bit wary of growing dependant > of a closed-source kernel module... > May I suggest to reverse your setup, and to install > an ext2/3 filesystem driver on your Windows partition > and to install your shared (Windows|Linux) files > on such a partition, safely readable/writable from > Linux and Windows (as far as ona can do something > safely on Windows, of course...).I've discussed the same possibility on another mailing list, but as far as anyone knows, there *is* no OSS Win32 driver to provide read/write support for any OSS filesystems. I certainly would like to see support for some *JOURNALED* FS in Windows (ext3, ReiserFS, JFS, XFS, whatever). Journaled is important, of course, since Windows is more likely to trash your data The only Win32 support I've found is Paragon's commercial product Ext2FS Anywhere ( http://www.ext2fs-anywhere.com/index.htm ). I've considered it myself, although I'm concerned it won't maintain the journals on EXT3, thus not meeting one of the more important criteria.