wine users - Jul 2002 - Question: Using Windows XP under Linux?

I'm curious about the feasability and possibility of using Wine as a 
basis for running as much MS code under Linux as possible.

Let me explain:

Windows XP (and most of it's ilk before it) don't support remote 
booting, that is using a diskless workstation and booting the OS from 
the network.  Linux, of course readily provides that functionality.

However, switching to linux is not really an option for the majority of 
our work.. We've already got the Windows licenses anyway.

The question is, if I used as much stuff from Windows XP as possible, 
how complete of OS could be built?

I was thinking about Usermode linux the other day, how it's like having 
an OS inside of and OS, and there was also the beginnings of a Line 
project( kinda the opposite of Wine, running Linux binaries under 
Windows type of thing...[http://line.sourceforge.net]), and I was 
thinking about if it would be possible to backend Windows itself to run 
under Linux, without requiring stuff like VMware and its kin, which are 
not optimal uses of the native OS, IMHO.

I'd like to get a Linux/Wine/Windows system running like this. Has 
anyone done that? What are the big limitations? Can it be done effectively?

Anyone?

Gar

You should go to http://www.win4lin.com/. They have software to let 
Windows 95/98/ME run within Linux. Instead of emulating a complete pc, 
they use special device drivers. Currently I don't know of any way to 
run Windows XP in such a way.


Garrett Serack wrote:
>                                                                          
> I'm curious about the feasability and possibility of using Wine as a 
> basis for running as much MS code under Linux as possible.
>
> Let me explain:
>
> Windows XP (and most of it's ilk before it) don't support remote 
> booting, that is using a diskless workstation and booting the OS from 
> the network.  Linux, of course readily provides that functionality.
>
> However, switching to linux is not really an option for the majority 
> of our work.. We've already got the Windows licenses anyway.
>
> The question is, if I used as much stuff from Windows XP as possible, 
> how complete of OS could be built?
>
> I was thinking about Usermode linux the other day, how it's like 
> having an OS inside of and OS, and there was also the beginnings of a 
> Line project( kinda the opposite of Wine, running Linux binaries under 
> Windows type of thing...[http://line.sourceforge.net]), and I was 
> thinking about if it would be possible to backend Windows itself to 
> run under Linux, without requiring stuff like VMware and its kin, 
> which are not optimal uses of the native OS, IMHO.
>
> I'd like to get a Linux/Wine/Windows system running like this. Has 
> anyone done that? What are the big limitations? Can it be done 
> effectively?
>
> Anyone?
>
> Gar
>
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puoti@inwind.it wrote:
>You basicly can't do that, most winxp software will not run under wine,
>wine can't use winxp dlls, vmware or win4lin are the only real solution
>unless you try and run mandrake 8.2 and wine, this will allow you to
>have a very easy and simple os, and a lot of win programs.
>
Except, that wine *can* use native dlls.

There's nothing stopping it, and essentially many moons ago, that was 
the only way to sccuessfully run anything under Wine was to use native DLLs.

I'm not interested in a "simple to use OS"... I'm interested
in using
Linux (and a somewhat customized version at that) and using Wine, but 
with actual MS Dlls for any functionality I can.

While this isn't quite in the spirit of where Wine is going, it may be 
somthing that has a lot of value.

Anyone who would even suggest Win4Lin should be smacked with a dead 
fish. Yech! Windows 95/95/SE/ME aren't worth running anyway.

Gar
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>
>>
>>I'm curious about the feasability and possibility of using Wine as a
>>basis for running as much MS code under Linux as possible.
>>
>>Let me explain:
>>
>>Windows XP (and most of it's ilk before it) don't support remote
>>booting, that is using a diskless workstation and booting the OS from 
>>the network.  Linux, of course readily provides that functionality.
>>
>>However, switching to linux is not really an option for the majority of 
>>our work.. We've already got the Windows licenses anyway.
>>
>>The question is, if I used as much stuff from Windows XP as possible, 
>>how complete of OS could be built?
>>
>>I was thinking about Usermode linux the other day, how it's like
having
>>an OS inside of and OS, and there was also the beginnings of a Line 
>>project( kinda the opposite of Wine, running Linux binaries under 
>>Windows type of thing...[http://line.sourceforge.net]), and I was 
>>thinking about if it would be possible to backend Windows itself to run 
>>under Linux, without requiring stuff like VMware and its kin, which are 
>>not optimal uses of the native OS, IMHO.
>>
>>I'd like to get a Linux/Wine/Windows system running like this. Has 
>>anyone done that? What are the big limitations? Can it be done
effectively?
>>
>>Anyone?
>>
>>Gar
>>
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