I'm using an html filter (ala junkbusters) called Proxomitron (proxomitron.cjb.com) through wine. I find that this program works great, except that it leaves a trail of unkillable wine.bin jobs whenever it retrieves a web page. Going to a page like slashdot results in ~8 wine.bin jobs that will never die, and can't be killed. (I am using wine from CVS as of 3/12/02 or so) Thinking that I'd be a good samaritan (and try to learn something about debugging), I ran wine with --debugmsg +relay, brought up slashdot, then terminated proxomitron. Searching for CreateThread, I found 21 calls. Searching for ExitThread, I found 20 calls. But I was left with 8 unkillable wine.bin processes. (While the program was running there were 10 wine.bin processes, plus wineserver running) At this point I didn't know what to try next. Any pointers would be appreciated. I have tried this with several Proxomitron releases (going back about a year) with the same results. All this leads me to think it isn't the application's fault, but a wine issue (besides that it can run fine for months at a time on my windows box, but causes me to reboot once per week on my linux box). I had tried previous wine builds, but a Jan 12 CVS build wouldn't run it at all, and a mid November build wouldn't allow it to connect to the internet. Thanks, .Geoff ----------------------------------------------------- Protect yourself from spam, use http://sneakemail.com