I saw in the faq, that this might mean there was a problem with Mesa, so i downloaded and compiled Mesa 3.5, , then rebuilt wine (with transgaming patch) all the mesa demos run, all my loki games run. I've tried as root and as regular user. here's the output when i try to run carmageddon 2 ( i get to the part where i can select what i want to use software or glide, by the way, it isn't detecting directx) [root@line72 carma2]# wine carma2 fixme:pthread_kill_other_threads_np FIXME:pthread_rwlock_rdlock FIXME:pthread_rwlock_unlock FIXME:pthread_rwlock_rdlock FIXME:pthread_rwlock_unlock x11drv: Can't open display: FIXME:pthread_rwlock_rdlock FIXME:pthread_rwlock_unlock FIXME:pthread_rwlock_rdlock FIXME:pthread_rwlock_unlock fixme:pthread_kill_other_threads_np FIXME:pthread_rwlock_rdlock FIXME:pthread_rwlock_unlock FIXME:pthread_rwlock_rdlock FIXME:pthread_rwlock_unlock [root@line72 carma2]# x11drv: Can't open display: then it closes, please help mark