Vorbis - Jan 2006 - Firefox plugin to auto convert audio files into Ogg

per > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=63653

The above thread on the Fedora Forums about a script that can
automatically convert one audio format to another got me thinking >

wouldn't it be fantastic to be able to right click on an MP3 (or other
audio file) while in Firefox, and automatically have the file
converted into Ogg at the same time as the file is being saved

I'm not too technical - but a Firefox plugin that did this would be a
great way to support the spread of Ogg.

denise

On 1/9/06, Denise <techmum@gmail.com> wrote:
> per > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=63653
>
> The above thread on the Fedora Forums about a script that can
> automatically convert one audio format to another got me thinking >
>
> wouldn't it be fantastic to be able to right click on an MP3 (or other
> audio file) while in Firefox, and automatically have the file
> converted into Ogg at the same time as the file is being saved
Personally I wouldn't touch such extensions with a 10-foot pole. I
don't want to recompress my files and make them potentially sound
worse, get larger, or both.

I *might* try it if it acted on lossless/uncompressed sources only,
but not if it recompresses.

Cheers,
Kyungoon Lee

> wouldn't it be fantastic to be able to right click on an MP3 (or other
> audio file) while in Firefox, and automatically have the file
> converted into Ogg at the same time as the file is being saved
Interesting idea, but as Kyungjoon already alluded to, this wouldn't gain
any
Ogg supporters.

1) Converting an mp3 to a vorbis file will ALWAYS result in a file which 
sounds *worse* than the original mp3, due to the very nature of transcoding.

2) There's basically no player that plays vorbis audio but not mp3.  That
is,
if it will play an ogg it'll play the mp3 anyway.

Leave your mp3s as mp3s.  Encode new music (from CD) as ogg.  Download oggs if 
you have the option.  But don't convert mp3 or other formats to vorbis, 
because it'll just make people think that vorbis sounds that bad to begin 
with.

For more information about this, you might be interested in my (somewhat dated 
but still popular) Introduction to Compressed Audio with Ogg Vorbis; it 
explains many of the technical details you seem to be fuzzy on.

	http://grahammitchell.com/writings/vorbis_intro.html

-- 
Graham Mitchell - computer science teacher, Leander High School
"They come to watch me burn."
 	-- Charles Spurgeon

Graham Mitchell wrote:
> Tell me about it.  Ditto for my modded ogg123 I use for my jukebox at
school,
> but now I'm nitpicking.
While we are on the subject of transcoding, does anyone know of a
program or a way to make my Vorbis encoded music library available to a
UPnP music streaming type device via realtime Vorbis to MP3 transcoding?

Paul

James

You are right >

There is a big risk that many users would not appreciate or even be
aware of the reason for a lower level of quality.

Back to the drawing board > there must be other ways to help OGG
become the #1 digital audio format!


On 2/16/06, James <bjlockie@lockie.ca> wrote:
> On 1/10/2006 12:36 AM Denise spoke:
> > On 1/10/06, Kyungjoon Lee <kjoonlee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 1/9/06, Denise <techmum@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> per > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=63653
> >>>
> >>> The above thread on the Fedora Forums about a script that can
> >>> automatically convert one audio format to another got me
thinking >
> >>>
> >>> wouldn't it be fantastic to be able to right click on an
MP3 (or other
> >>> audio file) while in Firefox, and automatically have the file
> >>> converted into Ogg at the same time as the file is being saved
> >> Personally I wouldn't touch such extensions with a 10-foot
pole. I
> >> don't want to recompress my files and make them potentially
sound
> >> worse, get larger, or both.
> >>
> >> I *might* try it if it acted on lossless/uncompressed sources
only,
> >> but not if it recompresses.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kyungoon Lee
> >>
> >
> > Idea is to expand the usage of Ogg amongst new users.
> >
> > Hence, it would be an evolutionary step - not the final goal.
> I applaud your goal but converting from a lossy format (MP3) to another
> (OGG) will result in bad sounding files and then users will think OGG
> sounds bad.
> It is not a positive first exposure.
>