Vorbis - Sep 2003 - Poor quality of low bitrate encoding

In testing, I have found that both MP3 and RealAudio 3(!) are much 
better sounding at bitrates from 8 to 40-something kbps than Ogg 
Vorbis.  This definatly needs drastic improvents and I know that 1.1 
will be focusing on improvements in those areas but that seems pretty 
far off(a few months minimum) which leaves low-bitrate streams sounding 
pretty bad.

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> In testing, I have found that both MP3 and RealAudio 3(!) are much
> better sounding at bitrates from 8 to 40-something kbps than Ogg
> Vorbis.
Could you be a little more specific?  What method are you using to get Vorbis 
files at this bitrate?  (The technique makes a big difference in the final 
sound quality.)  And surely you mean mp3PRO rather than plain mp3.

In my own "testing", Vorbis beats mp3 like a red-headed stepchild at
these
bitrates.  I've not tried RealAudio, as I can't easily produce such
files on
my RedHat Linux machine.


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