Vorbis - Apr 2002 - low bitrate sounding better? (20k-30k)

At SxSW I ran into the Xiph gang and someone said something in passing that the
new version of Ogg Vorbis would have much-improved low-bitrate quality.

Wondering - true?  Details?  ETA?

At CD Baby all lo-fi soundclips are still in the SFERA format*.  At 20k
bitrates, they sound GREAT which is why I stick with it, but I'd much rather
switch them ALL over to OGG if there was a way to make 20k-30k sound as good as
RealAudio G2 does at that bitrate.

Go listen to the 20k birate clips at CD Baby.  (http://www.cdbaby.com/new 
<--- good starting point.)

Let me know if some beta/CVS versions of OGG encoders can make 20k sound that
good yet?

I'd love to do the switch, and help promote ogg files to the world.   (We
get 100,000 unique users a week, listening to the RealAudio clips now.  I'd
love to get all of them to go download ogg plugins.)


--
Derek Sivers, CD Baby, Hostbaby
http://www.cdbaby.com  <-- best new independent music
http://www.hostbaby.com <-- web hosting for musicians

* = (Stupid Fucking Evil Real Audio.)

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Derek at CD Baby wrote:
 > At SxSW I ran into the Xiph gang and someone said something in
 > passing that the new version of Ogg Vorbis would have much-improved
 > low-bitrate quality.
 >
 > Wondering - true?  Details?  ETA?

To my experience, not true.

<p>Akos

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At 01:36 PM 4/3/02 -0800, you wrote:
>At SxSW I ran into the Xiph gang and someone said something in passing that
the new version of Ogg Vorbis would have much-improved low-bitrate quality.
>
>Wondering - true?  Details?  ETA?
The primary focus of the next release (rc4) is going to be low-bitrate
quality. It's not here yet, though...
ETA is uncertain - but hopefully not too far off.

Michael

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