Hi guys. IMO now it's definitely time for finalizing Vorbis and throwing it in the arena. Two reasons: - RC2 sounds wonderfully well, I'm really amazed how good it is.. and I personally think there's little room for further improvement in sound quality.. - portable music devices are starting to take off (see Waitec, Creative, Apple and many other vendors). Wouldn't be good for the users and for Vorbis itself to have these babies already shipped with Vorbis specs in their eproms? Vorbis already puts competition in shame.. so why wait more? Just my 0.02$! -- (o< //\ GnuPGid: B8B68C17 V_/_ pinguino 186198 @ http://counter.li.org --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Here! Here! (or is it Hear! Hear! ???) As a non-audiophilic user of encoded music files (which the overwhelming majority of the user community is), OGGs got the rest beat. Let's Go Prime Time! --Ed Breuninger <edb@earthling.net> James Ossi wrote:>Hi guys. >IMO now it's definitely time for finalizing Vorbis and throwing it >in the arena. >Two reasons: >- RC2 sounds wonderfully well, I'm really amazed how good it is.. > and I personally think there's little room for further improvement in > sound quality.. >- portable music devices are starting to take off (see Waitec, Creative, > Apple and many other vendors). >Wouldn't be good for the users and for Vorbis itself to have these babies >already shipped with Vorbis specs in their eproms? >Vorbis already puts competition in shame.. so why wait more? >Just my 0.02$! >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
You can download the latest pre-RC3 beta Oggenc's from http://www.din.or.jp/~glit/TheOddStage/Progs/Vorbis/autobuild_e.html There will be hearable improvements of the sound quality when we get our..eeh...ears on RC3... ORK At 16:28 03/11/01 +0100, you wrote:>Hi guys. >IMO now it's definitely time for finalizing Vorbis and throwing it >in the arena. >Two reasons: >- RC2 sounds wonderfully well, I'm really amazed how good it is.. > and I personally think there's little room for further improvement in > sound quality.. >- portable music devices are starting to take off (see Waitec, Creative, > Apple and many other vendors). >Wouldn't be good for the users and for Vorbis itself to have these babies >already shipped with Vorbis specs in their eproms? >Vorbis already puts competition in shame.. so why wait more? >Just my 0.02$! > >-- >(o< >//\ GnuPGid: B8B68C17 >V_/_ pinguino 186198 @ http://counter.li.org > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
James Ossi schrieb:> Hi guys.Hello James!> IMO now it's definitely time for finalizing Vorbis and throwing it > in the arena. > Two reasons: > - RC2 sounds wonderfully well, I'm really amazed how good it is.. > and I personally think there's little room for further improvement in > sound quality.. > - portable music devices are starting to take off (see Waitec, Creative, > Apple and many other vendors).We all know that Vorbis is great great great! Nevertheless there are still some things do do before 1.0 (keep in mind I´m not a developer, so I may be wrong ;-): - true bitrate managment: Monty is working this (does he?). This is a very important feature I think. Vorbis was announced to be both a CBR and a VBR codec. Don´t let us lie ;-) - tuning for low-bitrate modes. This is necessary for Internet-Radio. We all want to free those radio stations from MP3-slavery, don´t we? I am sure that radio stations are _very_ intersted in Vorbis, so don´t disappoint them! (although it´s hard to imagine that Vorbis could ever disappoint anyone...) - bitrate peeling! This is something unique and 1.0 should be able to do this. We need utitities for peeling and an encoder that produces output that can be efficiently peeled. RC2 doesn´t prepare files for peeling! I am sure there are even more things to do before 1.0!> Wouldn't be good for the users and for Vorbis itself to have these babies > already shipped with Vorbis specs in their eproms?Creative, Apple etc. may feel free to implement the RC2 decoder into these babies.> Vorbis already puts competition in shame.. so why wait more?Because there are still some things to do.> Just my 0.02$!bye, Maik Merten -- MetalUnleashed: http://www.metalunleashed.de DHTML-Bibliothek: http://www.fortunecity.de/wolkenkratzer/flick/403 ICQ: 45648209 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.