Vorbis - Aug 2000 - some questions: client for ultralinux and streaming

Greetings,

I am rather new to OGG or streaming, so I like to ask some questions:

First, clients:
I have a sun ultra-sparc 5 running linux.
What clients can I use?

The xmms (that came with the redhat 6.2 installation) does not have the
vorbis-pluging, and -I guess- the xmms-plugin that's on the vorbis-website
is for intel-linux?

Where could I get the source for the plugin and (if 
necessairy) documentation on how to compile it?

- Is there no text-based client (ala 'mpg123') or a client for mac?

Second, streaming:
Where can I find info the streaming-possibilities of vorbis?

- (As I am a network admin) what are the possibilities of UDP-streaming
(if possible via multicasting).

- What are the possibilities to use vorbis for'low bandwidth, low
quality' streams (like news-radions) or over 'high-latency'
paths. (e.g. satelite-links).
 
As vorbis is patent-free, it would be interesting to see if it could be
use to streaming radio-stations from '3th world countries' (is this term
still polically correct? ;-)), but these countries usually run over
satelite-links and/or use lower-bandwiths.

- As there already exist a projects to provide streaming and 'splitting'
of mp3 (icecast, ...), are there any plans to 'incorperate' ogg into
such
a project.

Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.

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At 08:42 AM 8/16/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I am rather new to OGG or streaming, so I like to ask some questions:
>
>First, clients:
>I have a sun ultra-sparc 5 running linux.
>What clients can I use?
For encoding: oggenc should work (it works on solaris/sparc, at least - and
linux should be easy). 
For playback: xmms. If you're looking for a command line player, ogg123 may
work (but may require a little work - I think it'll be fine, however).

I've done some testing on an ultra (but not linux), so I think everything
more or less works, there. 
>
>The xmms (that came with the redhat 6.2 installation) does not have the
>vorbis-pluging, and -I guess- the xmms-plugin that's on the
vorbis-website
>is for intel-linux?
>
>Where could I get the source for the plugin and (if 
>necessairy) documentation on how to compile it?
The xmms plugin is in cvs (as are the other programs I mentioned above) -
it's not part of the standard build, so just go into that directory and
type make. You'll then need to copy it to the correct location. It should
work on non-x86, but I don't know if anyone has tested it there.
>
>Second, streaming:
>Where can I find info the streaming-possibilities of vorbis?
>
>- (As I am a network admin) what are the possibilities of UDP-streaming
>(if possible via multicasting).
>
>- What are the possibilities to use vorbis for'low bandwidth, low
>quality' streams (like news-radions) or over 'high-latency'
>paths. (e.g. satelite-links).
> 
>As vorbis is patent-free, it would be interesting to see if it could be
>use to streaming radio-stations from '3th world countries' (is this
term
>still polically correct? ;-)), but these countries usually run over
>satelite-links and/or use lower-bandwiths.
All of the above are things that the vorbis format has been designed to do
well at, but some stuff is still missing - low bitrate modes, etc. Expect
this in the future.
>
>
>- As there already exist a projects to provide streaming and
'splitting'
>of mp3 (icecast, ...), are there any plans to 'incorperate' ogg into
such
>a project.
Yes, people are working on adding vorbis support to icecast.

Michael

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Hi:

The XMMS plugin as well as the console-mode tools already refferred to are
in the vorbis CVS.  For more info visit http://www.vorbis.org.  Freeamp now
also supports vorbis.  If you want to use the GDK <?> interface, then you
can get the freeamp 2.1beta5vorbis distribution, either as source or as an
RPM (see freeamp.org or one of its mirrors).  If you want to use any other
interface, either checkout the CVS (don't download a snapshot, they are
ancient), or wait till 2.1beta6 is released which, I'm led to believe, will
be very soon.

Geoff.


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I've gotten permission to provide some downloads on my site, and I've
decided to post them both in MP3 and Vorbis formats. I'm wondering what 
mime type to set up in Apache for .ogg files. I know that people are 
pretty unlikely to have it in their clients but I figure I might as well
get my end right :)

Feel free to check out the files. They're from artists on some West coast
indie labels: K, Slumberland, and Magic Marker. I did them with a copy of
vorbize that I built from cvs a few weeks ago...

http://indiepopradio.com/download/

Thanks,

Rich

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