I recently went looking for the beta2 sources and was surprised to not find them anywhere on the website. Worse, the release tags 'public-beta-1' and 'release_1_0_beta_2' longer retrieve the complete code, since part of the repository has been manually rearranged! (Thanks to cvs's non-support of changes in directory structure.) Fortunately, Monty made backups, and was kind enough to send them to me. I've made source tarballs from the tagged code and placed them on my website, along with the repository backup. Should you be interested, you can find them at: http://snow.ashlu.bc.ca/ogg/src/ I'd suggest that someone install at least the tarballs on the main site (under xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/download/) so they're easy to find. At the time I was looking for something more stable than the current tools to help someone on irc, but in general it's nice to have it around for reference. Appeals to the archivist in me. There's also the issue of the (L)GPL, which requires that the source be made available for at least three years after the binary release. This is why sites like kernel.org have every version that's ever been officially announced. Of course, they're only betas, released by the primary authors, so there's plenty of wiggle room, but that's not how I was brought up. Cheers, -ralph -- giles@ashlu.bc.ca who know what theses will be written over the half-discarded data of today? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.