Ah, but speex.org should lead by example. Instead of posting wav files, why not post the actual speex files as well? Then make it plaingly obvious for people to download the plugins with links to the page you just posted. George -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marc Valin [mailto:jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:59 AM To: George Ou Cc: speex-dev@xiph.org Subject: Re: [Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex? On windows, illi's excellent Ogg DirectShow filter will do (http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/). On MacOS X, I think there's a QT component that will do the trick, but I'm not sure where to get it. On Linux, gstreamer, xine and other frameworks will handle Speex fine. On Symbian mobile phone, you might have to use the command-line speexdec, though ;-) Jean-Marc George Ou wrote:> I would love to see podcasters adopt the Speex format to deliver clear > speech audio at wideband or ultra-wideband formats. However, > podcasters want something that can easily play on Windows, Macs, and > even Linux web browsers. The Speex website has some nice audio demos, > but it doesn't actually offer any HTML embedded samples using actual Speexformat.> Would there be a way to do this with Speex and have a simple > downloadable web plugin? > > > George > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Speex-dev mailing list > Speex-dev@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/speex-dev
George Ou wrote:> Ah, but speex.org should lead by example. Instead of posting wav files, why > not post the actual speex files as well? Then make it plaingly obvious for > people to download the plugins with links to the page you just posted.I post wav files for the same reason people have screenshots. Sure, I could download OpenOffice and try it, but it's nice to be able to click and see a screenshot before downloading anything. Plus if people are going to download Speex anyway, they don't need my samples because they can make their own. Jean-Marc> > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jean-Marc Valin [mailto:jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:59 AM > To: George Ou > Cc: speex-dev@xiph.org > Subject: Re: [Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex? > > On windows, illi's excellent Ogg DirectShow filter will do > (http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/). On MacOS X, I think there's a QT > component that will do the trick, but I'm not sure where to get it. On > Linux, gstreamer, xine and other frameworks will handle Speex fine. On > Symbian mobile phone, you might have to use the command-line speexdec, > though ;-) > > Jean-Marc > > George Ou wrote: >> I would love to see podcasters adopt the Speex format to deliver clear >> speech audio at wideband or ultra-wideband formats. However, >> podcasters want something that can easily play on Windows, Macs, and >> even Linux web browsers. The Speex website has some nice audio demos, >> but it doesn't actually offer any HTML embedded samples using actual Speex > format. >> Would there be a way to do this with Speex and have a simple >> downloadable web plugin? >> >> >> George >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speex-dev mailing list >> Speex-dev@xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/speex-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Speex-dev mailing list > Speex-dev@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/speex-dev >
How about posting the actual speex samples along with the WAV files? -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marc Valin [mailto:jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:17 AM To: George Ou Cc: speex-dev@xiph.org Subject: Re: [Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex? George Ou wrote:> Ah, but speex.org should lead by example. Instead of posting wav > files, why not post the actual speex files as well? Then make it > plaingly obvious for people to download the plugins with links to the pageyou just posted. I post wav files for the same reason people have screenshots. Sure, I could download OpenOffice and try it, but it's nice to be able to click and see a screenshot before downloading anything. Plus if people are going to download Speex anyway, they don't need my samples because they can make their own. Jean-Marc> > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jean-Marc Valin [mailto:jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:59 AM > To: George Ou > Cc: speex-dev@xiph.org > Subject: Re: [Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex? > > On windows, illi's excellent Ogg DirectShow filter will do > (http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/). On MacOS X, I think there's a QT > component that will do the trick, but I'm not sure where to get it. On > Linux, gstreamer, xine and other frameworks will handle Speex fine. On > Symbian mobile phone, you might have to use the command-line speexdec, > though ;-) > > Jean-Marc > > George Ou wrote: >> I would love to see podcasters adopt the Speex format to deliver >> clear speech audio at wideband or ultra-wideband formats. However, >> podcasters want something that can easily play on Windows, Macs, and >> even Linux web browsers. The Speex website has some nice audio >> demos, but it doesn't actually offer any HTML embedded samples using >> actual Speex > format. >> Would there be a way to do this with Speex and have a simple >> downloadable web plugin? >> >> >> George >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speex-dev mailing list >> Speex-dev@xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/speex-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Speex-dev mailing list > Speex-dev@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/speex-dev >
Ok, I made my own sample HTML page and it worked on a vorbis OGG file that I embedded. No need to download a player (other than the directshow filter if it isn't already installed) and no need to download sample. It just played within the browser. I should probably try to release a podcast like this at 16 kbps and see how well it's received. -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marc Valin [mailto:jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:17 AM To: George Ou Cc: speex-dev@xiph.org Subject: Re: [Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex? George Ou wrote:> Ah, but speex.org should lead by example. Instead of posting wav > files, why not post the actual speex files as well? Then make it > plaingly obvious for people to download the plugins with links to the pageyou just posted. I post wav files for the same reason people have screenshots. Sure, I could download OpenOffice and try it, but it's nice to be able to click and see a screenshot before downloading anything. Plus if people are going to download Speex anyway, they don't need my samples because they can make their own. Jean-Marc