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as per yesterday's discussion at #theora -- It has been suggested that we devise a method such that we will be able to add certain features to the bitstream (interlace, exotic color subsampling, clip length flag for download, etc), in such a way as to not obsolete streams encoded previously. Rillian's suggestion, which is pretty much standard practice, is to add a bitstream revision

Hello all, I've been working a little inside the Theora decoder when I found that it seems that many videos had the very same huffman tables encoded into their bitstreams (at least the ones that I could take my time to dissecate). I found that the tables are listed as TH_VP31_HUFF_CODES in the file huffenc.c. I tried to investigate a little bit more to see who was setting the bitstream

./configure: line 524: syntax error near unexpected token `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(libtheora,0.0)' ./configure: line 524: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(libtheora,0.0)' I'm sure I'm doing something pro-stupid, but --- my setup works fine for ogg & vorbis. autoconf ver 2.13 automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p4 if that matters hey let's put tool version numbers into the README -dan

Hello, I am programmer working on a product which integrates Theora. I have a question regarding the memory use on some of the internals of Theora. Is this the right forum for this question, and if not, does anyone know where an appropriate place to ask is? Thanks Sam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Good day! I'm creating HDL IP CORE (for using in FPGA) for theora encoder (now only I-frames). I don't undestand one moment. Now i develop such stages: 1. From RBG(byer) to YCbCr converter 2. DCT processing (8x8 pixels blocks) 3. Quantizator of DCT coeff. 4. Zig-Zag of quantized DCT coeff. and now i have uresolved last stage of compression - how i must send 8x8 blocks to huffman

Dan, In reviewing the code, derf came across the DCSearchPoints array in QuadCodeDisplayFragments(), encode.c:696. It looks like it specifies a search order for nearby coded fragments for prediction if there isn't a nearest neighbor. However, the upper search bound is defined as *0*, so the search loop (line 917) is never executed and it always falls back to the last coded fragment.

Hi List, Just batting a few ideas around here, but would it be possible to include in to the codec, estimation for common video artifacts that occur in the analogue world? For example, anything that's gone through a composite stage will likely have dot-crawl and false colour - if we can recognise this effect in the encoder, we can treat it as a special case. Other artifacts that come to

Hullo, When people ask me what Vorbis's license terms are, I usually tell them that the bitstream format is in the public domain, that the reference libraries are licensed under a BSD-like license, and that the example programs are licensed under the GNU GPL. (Note the distinction between filespec and implementation here.) Meanwhile, Theora.org's FAQ doesn't say anything about the

it appears your encoder/player do not yet reflece the changes rillian introduced wrt theora headers, which have been split into three parts -- header proper, comment, and tables (see toplevel.c). It's strange that your code works at all linked against the new libs; presumably since the tables still have the hard-coded values, if you encode & decode from the same lib compile you won't

Hello Theora developers, I'm doing some cursory research into Theora's IP status in preparation for asking Apple to reconsider the possibility of shipping an implementation. I have a few questions and I'm hoping knowledgeable people can help out. 1) What are the terms of any patent licenses or disclaimers, and do they have field of use restrictions or limitations on code for

Hi, I'm developing ffdshow and ffvfw codecs for Windows. You can read more about them at http://cutka.szm.sk and http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow. Stéphane Bérubé asked me recently if I could implement Theora support. I knew about first Theora release, downloaded its sources and tested it. I liked the results add decided to support it. I implemented encoding functionality into ffvfw,

can anyone confirm that, unlike VP3, Theora in fact decodes images right-side-up? (VP3 managed to turn everything upside down on encode and reverse it on decode) The tests I'm doing indicate that Theora doesn't reverse the image -- the first coefficients encoded correspond to the upper-left corner of the frame. ___ Dan Miller (++,) Founder, On2 Technologies --- >8 ---- List

I hope this list is small enough for not beeing banned when introducing oneself. So... Hi, I just subscribed to the theora-lists. I'm from the XVID project, so I know a deal about video and MPEG-4 in particular, but nothing about Vorbis/Theora etc., That's why I'm here, because I'm interested in patent-free alternatives. I guess there is no documentation of the current status

I've made a block diagram of the encoder because I tried to find out, how it works http://stoffke.freeshell.65535.net/ogg/block.html Although there are specifiation docs, that give very detailed information about single aspects of the encoding (or decoding) , I'm missing documenations that give a more general overview, about how the encoder works. (Vorbis Illuminated seems a bit

Hello, I´m just curious: How far is Theora from a bitstream freeze? From TheoraTodo: "Derf has come up with a number of suggestions for improving the flexibility of the bitstream based on his experimental encoder work. These will be implemented, if not entirely supported by the reference decoder, before alpha 3 is released." Are those changes supposed to be the last adjustments?

Hello, could somenone please describe me the vorbis specific physical bitstream structure, as I haven't found any documentation about it. Thank you ******************* Pierre-Henri Quelen phq@laposte.net "Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,13 €/mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34€/mn)" --- >8 ---- List archives:

Question: is it permissible to put more than one frame packet into a page? At 30 fps, Ogg page overhead is on the order of 8 - 10 kbits/sec. At low datarates, this is going to be unacceptable. If I shove a few frames into a page, how does this affect the granulepos stuff? ___ Dan Miller (++,) Founder, On2 Technologies <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/

Hello, Due to some licensing changes (and because I actually want to promote this, too) I want to replace our usage of Intel Indeo 5 with VP3 in a video conferencing pplication we are just developing (check: http://www.stnadby24.no/ for infos (english language) on the application). My problem is this: I need to define at least the bandwidth. I am feeding full frames from the camera with a given

Hi, Can anyone tell me the significant differences between VP30 and VP31 (or are you allowed to)? Are there different token and quantizer tables? Are there algorithmic differences? I have a VP30-encoded file that plays with the VP3 VfW DLL but not with the open source decoder. Thanks... -- -Mike Melanson --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project

There is bit space in Bitstream Header to put Huffman codes in. However, This space can take only 80 kinds of Huffman code set. And This space is divded into DC Huffman code set and AC Huffman set, and There are only 16 choices in each DC and AC Huffman code set. If we want to use this space, we find out best(or proper) performance 80 frequency counts(Huffman code sets) from tens thousands of