can anyone confirm that, unlike VP3, Theora in fact decodes images right-side-up? (VP3 managed to turn everything upside down on encode and reverse it on decode) The tests I'm doing indicate that Theora doesn't reverse the image -- the first coefficients encoded correspond to the upper-left corner of the frame. ___ Dan Miller (++,) Founder, On2 Technologies --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'theora-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
note that if true, this will make it impossible to losslessly transcode VP3 into Theora. Perhaps we can add a flag for 'display upside down'? ___ Dan Miller (++,) Founder, On2 Technologies <p>> -----Original Message-----> From: Dan Miller > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:11 AM > To: theora-dev@xiph.org > Subject: RE: [theora-dev] theora spec > > > can anyone confirm that, unlike VP3, Theora in fact decodes > images right-side-up? (VP3 managed to turn everything upside > down on encode and reverse it on decode) > > The tests I'm doing indicate that Theora doesn't reverse the > image -- the first coefficients encoded correspond to the > upper-left corner of the frame. > > ___ Dan Miller > (++,) Founder, On2 Technologies > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'theora-dev-request@xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'theora-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
still hoping for someone to check me on this -- it seems pretty clear that the Theora code does not in fact invert the image as did VP3. We may have to modify the bitstream if we want to retain some compatibility with VP3. Otherwise, conversion from VP3 will require decoding & re-encoding, which will suck pretty bad... ___ Dan Miller (++,) Founder, On2 Technologies <p>> -----Original Message-----> From: Dan Miller > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:11 AM > To: theora-dev@xiph.org > Subject: RE: [theora-dev] theora spec > > > can anyone confirm that, unlike VP3, Theora in fact decodes > images right-side-up? (VP3 managed to turn everything upside > down on encode and reverse it on decode) > > The tests I'm doing indicate that Theora doesn't reverse the > image -- the first coefficients encoded correspond to the > upper-left corner of the frame. > > ___ Dan Miller > (++,) Founder, On2 Technologies > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'theora-dev-request@xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'theora-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.