Shorewall devel - Jan 2004 - Shorewall FAQ Wiki Online, nearly complete...

Hello,

Mike Noyes and myself have populated http://wiki.rettc.com with the 
shorewall FAQ.

This wiki is running MediaWiki, http://www.mediawiki.org.

Currently, a couple items are not complete.

I have just begun a heavy semester of mathematics/physics studies, and 
do not have much time to give to this.

But, it is online, and seems to be stable. I will keep an eye out for 
abuse, and limit access or shut it down if there are any serious 
activities.

Currently, Mike and myself have sysop rights, if anyone else feels they 
need such rights, please email me.

If anyone could help complete this wiki that would be grand.

So, if Tom and whoever else might be interested would take a look at it, 
and give the go ahead (after finalization of course), or give some more 
direction to format, completeness, modifications, etc, I would 
appreciate it.

Really, I would like to get this online, and public, to see how a wiki 
evolves, or becomes extinct. Hopefully, it shows itself to be helpful 
and feasible, hopefully not useless and insecure/a headache.

Bottom line, a little help, and Tom''s input, and then a post to 
shorewall-users and/or shorewall newbies can be made.

Thanks,

Alex Martin
http://www.rettc.com

Last chance for comments... I guess I''ll post to the other lists and
see
what happens.


Alex Martin wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Mike Noyes and myself have populated http://wiki.rettc.com with the 
> shorewall FAQ.
>

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Alex Martin wrote:
>
> Last chance for comments... I guess I''ll post to the other lists
and see
> what happens.
>
Sorry that I haven''t been able to devote any energy to this, Alex. Too
many problems in my personal life currently.

If I want to create a link to the Shorewall FAQ Wiki, I presume I need to
use this ugly URL?

http://wiki.rettc.com/wiki.phtml?title=Wiki_Shorewall_FAQ&PHPSESSID=f86eaf2003e017186f737c8d6281111e

-Tom
--
Tom Eastep    \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool
Shoreline,     \ http://shorewall.net
Washington USA  \ teastep@shorewall.net

Hmm.

This seems to work:

http://wiki.rettc.com/wiki.phtml?title=Wiki_Shorewall_FAQ

I came across some "url beautification" notes using mod_rewrite, just
so
that linking is nicer. I will look into this again.

If this wiki faq is sucessful, I will move it into its own virtual host.

Let me know if/when you post a link so that I may keep an eye on things.

Alex Martin
http://www.rettc.com


Tom Eastep wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Alex Martin wrote:
> 
> 
>>Last chance for comments... I guess I''ll post to the other
lists and see
>>what happens.
>>
> 
> 
> Sorry that I haven''t been able to devote any energy to this, Alex.
Too
> many problems in my personal life currently.
> 
> If I want to create a link to the Shorewall FAQ Wiki, I presume I need to
> use this ugly URL?
> 
>
http://wiki.rettc.com/wiki.phtml?title=Wiki_Shorewall_FAQ&PHPSESSID=f86eaf2003e017186f737c8d6281111e
> 
> -Tom
> --
> Tom Eastep    \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool
> Shoreline,     \ http://shorewall.net
> Washington USA  \ teastep@shorewall.net

On Sat, 2004-01-17 at 17:06, Tom Eastep wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Alex Martin wrote:
> 
> >
> > Last chance for comments... I guess I''ll post to the other
lists and see
> > what happens.
Alex,
I apologize for my inattention. I''ve been tied up with LAN upgrade
issues.
> If I want to create a link to the Shorewall FAQ Wiki, I presume I need to
> use this ugly URL?
> 
> http://wiki.rettc.com/wiki.phtml?title=Wiki_Shorewall_FAQ
> 
> &PHPSESSID=f86eaf2003e017186f737c8d6281111e
It looks like you have php.ini setup incorrectly. It''s saving the
session id in the url. Look at your session.save_path with phpinfo.

Example from leaf site on SF.net:
.htaccess
    php_value session.save_path "/home/groups/l/le/leaf/tmp"

-- 
Mike Noyes <mhnoyes at users.sourceforge.net>
http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/
SF.net Projects: ffl, leaf, phpwebsite, phpwebsite-comm, sitedocs

On Sat, 2004-01-17 at 17:56, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > &PHPSESSID=f86eaf2003e017186f737c8d6281111e
> 
> It looks like you have php.ini setup incorrectly. It''s saving the
> session id in the url. Look at your session.save_path with phpinfo.
> 
> Example from leaf site on SF.net:
> .htaccess
>     php_value session.save_path "/home/groups/l/le/leaf/tmp"
Alex,
The php.ini setting to change is session.save_handler to "files".

-- 
Mike Noyes <mhnoyes at users.sourceforge.net>
http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/
SF.net Projects: ffl, leaf, phpwebsite, phpwebsite-comm, sitedocs

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Alex Martin wrote:
> Hmm.
>
> This seems to work:
>
> http://wiki.rettc.com/wiki.phtml?title=Wiki_Shorewall_FAQ
>
> I came across some "url beautification" notes using mod_rewrite,
just so
> that linking is nicer. I will look into this again.
>
> If this wiki faq is sucessful, I will move it into its own virtual host.
>
> Let me know if/when you post a link so that I may keep an eye on things.
>
Just took a look at the wiki using IE on Windows XP -- the bottom half of
the initial page is totally unreadable.

-Tom
--
Tom Eastep    \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool
Shoreline,     \ http://shorewall.net
Washington USA  \ teastep@shorewall.net

What version IE?

I am using IE 6.0.2800.1106IC no problems. (win2000server)

Mozilla 1.6 (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6)
Gecko/20040113) no problems.

Can you send me the source of the garbage page?

I have no xp machines to test with. I will make sure the html output is
fully valid.

-Alex
> 
> Just took a look at the wiki using IE on Windows XP -- the bottom half of
> the initial page is totally unreadable.
> 
> -Tom
> --
> Tom Eastep    \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool
> Shoreline,     \ http://shorewall.net
> Washington USA  \ teastep@shorewall.net

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Alex Martin wrote:
> What version IE?
>
> I am using IE 6.0.2800.1106IC no problems. (win2000server)
>
> Mozilla 1.6 (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6)
> Gecko/20040113) no problems.
>
> Can you send me the source of the garbage page?
>
> I have no xp machines to test with. I will make sure the html output is
> fully valid.
>
HTML attached.

-Tom
--
Tom Eastep    \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool
Shoreline,     \ http://shorewall.net
Washington USA  \ teastep@shorewall.net
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I added "session.use_only_cookies = 1"
to the file below as well.

My php.ini looks like this:

## snip

[Session]
; Handler used to store/retrieve data.
session.save_handler = files

; Argument passed to save_handler.  In the case of files, this is the path
; where data files are stored. Note: Windows users have to change this
; variable in order to use PHP''s session functions.
session.save_path = /tmp

; Whether to use cookies.
session.use_cookies = 1

## snip



Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-01-17 at 17:56, Mike Noyes wrote:
> 
>>>&PHPSESSID=f86eaf2003e017186f737c8d6281111e
>>
>>It looks like you have php.ini setup incorrectly. It''s saving
the
>>session id in the url. Look at your session.save_path with phpinfo.
>>
>>Example from leaf site on SF.net:
>>.htaccess
>>    php_value session.save_path "/home/groups/l/le/leaf/tmp"
> 
> 
> Alex,
> The php.ini setting to change is session.save_handler to "files".
>

Ok. If you deny the cookie that the site tries to set, then the 
sessionid is included in the anchors.

If you accept the cookie, the urls do not have a sessionid.

I think this is reasonable behavior, considering as well that linking 
does not require the sessionid.

Maybe Tom doesn''t like cookies ;)


Tom Eastep wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Alex Martin wrote:
> 
> 
>>Last chance for comments... I guess I''ll post to the other
lists and see
>>what happens.
>>
> 
> 
> Sorry that I haven''t been able to devote any energy to this, Alex.
Too
> many problems in my personal life currently.
> 
> If I want to create a link to the Shorewall FAQ Wiki, I presume I need to
> use this ugly URL?
> 
>
http://wiki.rettc.com/wiki.phtml?title=Wiki_Shorewall_FAQ&PHPSESSID=f86eaf2003e017186f737c8d6281111e
> 
> -Tom
> --
> Tom Eastep    \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool
> Shoreline,     \ http://shorewall.net
> Washington USA  \ teastep@shorewall.net
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Alex Martin wrote:
> Ok. If you deny the cookie that the site tries to set, then the
> sessionid is included in the anchors.
>
> If you accept the cookie, the urls do not have a sessionid.
>
> I think this is reasonable behavior, considering as well that linking
> does not require the sessionid.
>
> Maybe Tom doesn''t like cookies ;)
>
Actually, the sessionid is embedded in the link from wiki.rettc.com to the
Shorewall FAQ Wiki page.

-Tom
--
Tom Eastep    \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool
Shoreline,     \ http://shorewall.net
Washington USA  \ teastep@shorewall.net

I fixed a few issues. Hopefully this is fixed.

Tom Eastep wrote:
> Just took a look at the wiki using IE on Windows XP -- the bottom half of
> the initial page is totally unreadable.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Alex Martin wrote:
> I fixed a few issues. Hopefully this is fixed.
>
The Wiki seems to be down now.

-Tom
--
Tom Eastep    \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool
Shoreline,     \ http://shorewall.net
Washington USA  \ teastep@shorewall.net

On Sunday 18 January 2004 08:16 am, Tom Eastep wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Alex Martin wrote:
> > I fixed a few issues. Hopefully this is fixed.
>
> The Wiki seems to be down now.
>
The problem with the Wiki and IE on XP seems to be confined to viewing the 
Wiki in a frame; the problem doesn''t occur when viewing the Wiki in its
own
IE window. I''ve change the link from the Shorewall index frame to
accommodate
this IE "feature".

-Tom
-- 
Tom Eastep    \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool
Shoreline,     \ http://shorewall.net
Washington USA  \ teastep@shorewall.net