On 01/04/16 19:51, Jason Voorhees wrote:> If AD domains are based on DNS and WINS relies on NetBIOS, what > protocol(s) are used by computers to create and see (browse) all the > machines of the domain?As far as Samba is concerned it uses both, DNS & NetBIOS, but instead of using WINS, it uses DNS to find the machines and then 'nmbd' produces the browsing list (this is how I understand it works) I have two DCs and a domain member running as a server, I do not uses WINS (well not as a setting in smb.conf) but the other Linux machines (including the member server) show up if I browse the network, the two DCs do not. This is down to the 'nbt' portion of the 'samba' daemon not having the required code to browse the network. You should also be aware that you cannot run 'nmbd' on a DC, it will conflict with 'nbt' Rowland> > While it's clear to me that a hostname will resolve to an IP address > through DNS queries, I'm not sure how is the browsing list created and > maintained. In old NT style domain, any computer of the domain could > be selected to act as a master browser, and the use of WINS could just > simplify this by having all the machines registered to the WINS server > based on NetBIOS names. > > So now in a Samba4 AD domain, does it make sense the concept of master > browser yet? Who maintains a browsing list? If any, how is this > browsing list maintained? is it based on NetBIOS or DNS or both? I'm > asking this because regardless of the fact that I have 2 Samba4 AD > controllers without browsing features built-in, I am still being able > to see certain machines in my network. So I guess "someone" is in > keeping some kind of browsing list active. > > >
Thanks again Rowland. It isn't 100% clear to me yet, hehe :p, but it's time for testing, debugging and posting with my results. On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Rowland penny <rpenny at samba.org> wrote:> On 01/04/16 19:51, Jason Voorhees wrote: > >> If AD domains are based on DNS and WINS relies on NetBIOS, what >> protocol(s) are used by computers to create and see (browse) all the >> machines of the domain? >> > > As far as Samba is concerned it uses both, DNS & NetBIOS, but instead of > using WINS, it uses DNS to find the machines and then 'nmbd' produces the > browsing list (this is how I understand it works) > > I have two DCs and a domain member running as a server, I do not uses WINS > (well not as a setting in smb.conf) but the other Linux machines (including > the member server) show up if I browse the network, the two DCs do not. > > This is down to the 'nbt' portion of the 'samba' daemon not having the > required code to browse the network. You should also be aware that you > cannot run 'nmbd' on a DC, it will conflict with 'nbt' > > Rowland > > >> While it's clear to me that a hostname will resolve to an IP address >> through DNS queries, I'm not sure how is the browsing list created and >> maintained. In old NT style domain, any computer of the domain could be >> selected to act as a master browser, and the use of WINS could just >> simplify this by having all the machines registered to the WINS server >> based on NetBIOS names. >> >> So now in a Samba4 AD domain, does it make sense the concept of master >> browser yet? Who maintains a browsing list? If any, how is this browsing >> list maintained? is it based on NetBIOS or DNS or both? I'm asking this >> because regardless of the fact that I have 2 Samba4 AD controllers without >> browsing features built-in, I am still being able to see certain machines >> in my network. So I guess "someone" is in keeping some kind of browsing >> list active. >> >> >> >> > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >
Hello guys, Rowland :) I recently had the opportunity to configure a Samba 3.x server which acts as a WIN server. For testing purposes only, I've configured a group of 4 Windows machines to use my Samba 3.x host as WINS server but unfortunately those 4 hosts were not able to see each other in the windows browsing list. I might guess WINS is only providing NetBIOS name resolution but no machine browsing feature. Am I right? Thanks you all for your help On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Jason Voorhees <jvoorhees1 at gmail.com> wrote:> Thanks again Rowland. It isn't 100% clear to me yet, hehe :p, but it's time > for testing, debugging and posting with my results. > > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Rowland penny <rpenny at samba.org> wrote: >> >> On 01/04/16 19:51, Jason Voorhees wrote: >>> >>> If AD domains are based on DNS and WINS relies on NetBIOS, what >>> protocol(s) are used by computers to create and see (browse) all the >>> machines of the domain? >> >> >> As far as Samba is concerned it uses both, DNS & NetBIOS, but instead of >> using WINS, it uses DNS to find the machines and then 'nmbd' produces the >> browsing list (this is how I understand it works) >> >> I have two DCs and a domain member running as a server, I do not uses WINS >> (well not as a setting in smb.conf) but the other Linux machines (including >> the member server) show up if I browse the network, the two DCs do not. >> >> This is down to the 'nbt' portion of the 'samba' daemon not having the >> required code to browse the network. You should also be aware that you >> cannot run 'nmbd' on a DC, it will conflict with 'nbt' >> >> Rowland >> >>> >>> While it's clear to me that a hostname will resolve to an IP address >>> through DNS queries, I'm not sure how is the browsing list created and >>> maintained. In old NT style domain, any computer of the domain could be >>> selected to act as a master browser, and the use of WINS could just simplify >>> this by having all the machines registered to the WINS server based on >>> NetBIOS names. >>> >>> So now in a Samba4 AD domain, does it make sense the concept of master >>> browser yet? Who maintains a browsing list? If any, how is this browsing >>> list maintained? is it based on NetBIOS or DNS or both? I'm asking this >>> because regardless of the fact that I have 2 Samba4 AD controllers without >>> browsing features built-in, I am still being able to see certain machines in >>> my network. So I guess "someone" is in keeping some kind of browsing list >>> active. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba > >