On 09/11/15 21:35, Jeremy Allison wrote:> On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 12:55:23PM +0100, buhorojo wrote: >>>>>> So could you please stop sabotaging these efforts? >>>> We are helping, not sabotaging. >>> We? .... Is that you ... steves? >> Eh? Plural. We work as a team. It works that way. > Ah. OK. Can we please remove the 'buhorojo' > account from being allowed to post to the > mailing list ? > > I've had enough of dealing with compound > accounts and (which appear to be being > used by only one set of offenders) and > I think it's time to institute a list > policy of individual email accounts > only on samba and samba-technical. > > I'll raise this on the Team list to > try and get consensus to get this > multi-user account banned. > > If we do so, please don't try and > get around the restrictions again, > it is not welcome. > > Thanks, > > Jeremy.We don't think that is fair. We may not represent the views of the developers but we do feel that we are entitled to air our views here. We have support off-list, mainly from those who feel restricted in what they say here. Please do not use your power to restrict free speech. Criticism of this project is positive. There are long running bugs that need addressing. We would like to be able to direct those who have come up against them toward alternatives which are available now whilst at the same time help those who have come up against the same problems we faced when using Samba in our projects. Please reconsider your position. Thanks
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:14:13AM +0100, buhorojo wrote:> We don't think that is fair. We may not represent the views of the > developers but we do feel that we are entitled to air our views > here. We have support off-list, mainly from those who feel > restricted in what they say here. Please do not use your power to > restrict free speech. Criticism of this project is positive. There > are long running bugs that need addressing. We would like to be able > to direct those who have come up against them toward alternatives > which are available now whilst at the same time help those who have > come up against the same problems we faced when using Samba in our > projects. > > Please reconsider your position.You are welcome individually, but not as a collective. Individuals can be delt with well, individually. As a collective you are unbearable. Make separate email addresses for each of your members. There are many free email services to use. Individually you are very welcome to come and discuss and criticise the project constructively (note this does not include blanket 'Samba sucks' kind of postings, which are not at all helpful). I will not reconsider a ban on your collective. Jeremy.
On 10/11/15 17:47, Jeremy Allison wrote:> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:14:13AM +0100, buhorojo wrote: >> We don't think that is fair. We may not represent the views of the >> developers but we do feel that we are entitled to air our views >> here. We have support off-list, mainly from those who feel >> restricted in what they say here. Please do not use your power to >> restrict free speech. Criticism of this project is positive. There >> are long running bugs that need addressing. We would like to be able >> to direct those who have come up against them toward alternatives >> which are available now whilst at the same time help those who have >> come up against the same problems we faced when using Samba in our >> projects. >> >> Please reconsider your position. > You are welcome individually, but not as a > collective. Individuals can be delt with > well, individually. As a collective you > are unbearable. > > Make separate email addresses for each of > your members. There are free email > services to use. Individually you are > very welcome to come and discuss and > criticise the project constructively > (note this does not include blanket > 'Samba sucks' kind of postings, which > are not at all helpful). > > I will not reconsider a ban on your collective. > > Jeremy.The whole point of project work is to work as a team. To have all of us giving the same collective opinion is pointless. We all have file collaboration as part of our projects. Whilst we are not obliged to give feedback, we would like to be able to do so. As students, we believe we have useful points to make and from what we hear off-list, our contributions are welcome. We believe you are using your position of power to authorise censorship. It is easy for list members to ignore our posts should they so wish. Our aim apart from getting the best possible grade in our examinations is to be able to give our opinions freely. We do not seek anything more than the freedom to voice our opinion. You seem to think that we are destructively criticising your work. We are not. We merely see alternatives to the way you would have us work. Please try not to take our comments so personally. We are discussing a piece of software, there is nothing to be offended about. Thank you