ah yes.. that are the "limitation", but know limitations ( for us ) Rowland, this is something to add on the wiki. (here : https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/DNS_Administration ) ;-) Greetz, Louis>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Yuriy Tabolin >Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 11:35 >Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion > >19.08.2015 11:43, L.P.H. van Belle ??????????: >>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most >functions not work >>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation >likely to >>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind, >>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and commands that >>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools. >>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind >and the AD >>> dns tool works for me. >>> >>> Rowland >> Same here, samba 4.2.3 with bind dlz, just added about 100 >entries with the win7 RATS tools in the dns. >> Works great. >A basic tasks works great, I agree. But there are examples >what doesn't >works with samba internal DNS: >1. Scavenging. There is the error "This function is not supported on >this system" >2. Conditional forwarders. The same error as above. >3. Creating a true static records. When I create any static record it >has timestamp and option "Delete this record when it become stale". In >true Active Directory static records has timestamps "static" >and cannot >accidently deletes. >It is only that I remembered. When I thoroughly studied samba4 DNS, I >found more functions that doesn't works. > > >> >> Greetz, >> >> Louis >> >> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens >Rowland Penny >>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 10:22 >>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion >>> >>> On 19/08/15 01:57, John Gardeniers wrote: >>>> On the Samba wiki at >>>> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_Internal_DNS there is the >>>> following: >>>> >>>> If you have chosen the internal DNS as backend for your >environment, >>>> there are only two options that can be added to your smb.conf, to >>>> control the behaviour of DNS at this point: >>>> >>>> # Don't allow any updates | allow unsigned updates | only >>> allow signed >>>> updates >>>> allow dns updates = False | nonsecure | signed >>>> >>>> # If recursive queries = yes is set, the following is also needed >>>> dns forwarder = <ip addr of external dns server> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think the page needs some urgent editing because self >>> contradictions >>>> merely create confusion. Specifically, there should be no >>> reference to >>>> "recursive queries = yes" in the comment if that is not >even a valid >>>> option. Alternatively, there could be a comment explaining that the >>>> "dns forwarder" automatically actives recursion. >>> OK, page updated. >>> >>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most >functions not work >>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation >likely to >>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind, >>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and commands that >>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools. >>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind >and the AD >>> dns tool works for me. >>> >>> Rowland >>>> regards, >>>> John >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >>> >>> >> > >-- >With best regards, > >Tabolin Yuriy >System administrator >Speech Technology Center > > >-- >To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba > >
On 19/08/15 11:15, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:> ah yes.. > that are the "limitation", but know limitations ( for us ) > > Rowland, this is something to add on the wiki. > (here : https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/DNS_Administration ) > > ;-) > > Greetz, > > Louis > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Yuriy Tabolin >> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 11:35 >> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion >> >> 19.08.2015 11:43, L.P.H. van Belle ??????????: >>>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most >> functions not work >>>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation >> likely to >>>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind, >>>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and commands that >>>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools. >>>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind >> and the AD >>>> dns tool works for me. >>>> >>>> Rowland >>> Same here, samba 4.2.3 with bind dlz, just added about 100 >> entries with the win7 RATS tools in the dns. >>> Works great. >> A basic tasks works great, I agree. But there are examples >> what doesn't >> works with samba internal DNS: >> 1. Scavenging. There is the error "This function is not supported on >> this system" >> 2. Conditional forwarders. The same error as above. >> 3. Creating a true static records. When I create any static record it >> has timestamp and option "Delete this record when it become stale". In >> true Active Directory static records has timestamps "static" >> and cannot >> accidently deletes. >> It is only that I remembered. When I thoroughly studied samba4 DNS, I >> found more functions that doesn't works. >> >> >>> Greetz, >>> >>> Louis >>> >>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens >> Rowland Penny >>>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 10:22 >>>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion >>>> >>>> On 19/08/15 01:57, John Gardeniers wrote: >>>>> On the Samba wiki at >>>>> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_Internal_DNS there is the >>>>> following: >>>>> >>>>> If you have chosen the internal DNS as backend for your >> environment, >>>>> there are only two options that can be added to your smb.conf, to >>>>> control the behaviour of DNS at this point: >>>>> >>>>> # Don't allow any updates | allow unsigned updates | only >>>> allow signed >>>>> updates >>>>> allow dns updates = False | nonsecure | signed >>>>> >>>>> # If recursive queries = yes is set, the following is also needed >>>>> dns forwarder = <ip addr of external dns server> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think the page needs some urgent editing because self >>>> contradictions >>>>> merely create confusion. Specifically, there should be no >>>> reference to >>>>> "recursive queries = yes" in the comment if that is not >> even a valid >>>>> option. Alternatively, there could be a comment explaining that the >>>>> "dns forwarder" automatically actives recursion. >>>> OK, page updated. >>>> >>>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most >> functions not work >>>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation >> likely to >>>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind, >>>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and commands that >>>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools. >>>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind >> and the AD >>>> dns tool works for me. >>>> >>>> Rowland >>>>> regards, >>>>> John >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>>> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >>>> >>>> >> -- >> With best regards, >> >> Tabolin Yuriy >> System administrator >> Speech Technology Center >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >> >> >Done, added what I think Yuriy meant, let me know if it is incorrect :-) Rowland
typo in : Conditional forwarders are implemented yet. The same error message as above is returned. change Conditional forwarders are not implemented yet. The same error message as above is returned. :-) good work :-) Greetz, Louis>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Rowland Penny >Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 12:41 >Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion > >On 19/08/15 11:15, L.P.H. van Belle wrote: >> ah yes.. >> that are the "limitation", but know limitations ( for us ) >> >> Rowland, this is something to add on the wiki. >> (here : https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/DNS_Administration ) >> >> ;-) >> >> Greetz, >> >> Louis >> >> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens >Yuriy Tabolin >>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 11:35 >>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion >>> >>> 19.08.2015 11:43, L.P.H. van Belle ??????????: >>>>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most >>> functions not work >>>>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation >>> likely to >>>>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind, >>>>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and >commands that >>>>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools. >>>>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind >>> and the AD >>>>> dns tool works for me. >>>>> >>>>> Rowland >>>> Same here, samba 4.2.3 with bind dlz, just added about 100 >>> entries with the win7 RATS tools in the dns. >>>> Works great. >>> A basic tasks works great, I agree. But there are examples >>> what doesn't >>> works with samba internal DNS: >>> 1. Scavenging. There is the error "This function is not supported on >>> this system" >>> 2. Conditional forwarders. The same error as above. >>> 3. Creating a true static records. When I create any static >record it >>> has timestamp and option "Delete this record when it become >stale". In >>> true Active Directory static records has timestamps "static" >>> and cannot >>> accidently deletes. >>> It is only that I remembered. When I thoroughly studied >samba4 DNS, I >>> found more functions that doesn't works. >>> >>> >>>> Greetz, >>>> >>>> Louis >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens >>> Rowland Penny >>>>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 10:22 >>>>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >>>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion >>>>> >>>>> On 19/08/15 01:57, John Gardeniers wrote: >>>>>> On the Samba wiki at >>>>>> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_Internal_DNS there is the >>>>>> following: >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have chosen the internal DNS as backend for your >>> environment, >>>>>> there are only two options that can be added to your smb.conf, to >>>>>> control the behaviour of DNS at this point: >>>>>> >>>>>> # Don't allow any updates | allow unsigned updates | only >>>>> allow signed >>>>>> updates >>>>>> allow dns updates = False | nonsecure | signed >>>>>> >>>>>> # If recursive queries = yes is set, the following is also needed >>>>>> dns forwarder = <ip addr of external dns server> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the page needs some urgent editing because self >>>>> contradictions >>>>>> merely create confusion. Specifically, there should be no >>>>> reference to >>>>>> "recursive queries = yes" in the comment if that is not >>> even a valid >>>>>> option. Alternatively, there could be a comment >explaining that the >>>>>> "dns forwarder" automatically actives recursion. >>>>> OK, page updated. >>>>> >>>>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most >>> functions not work >>>>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation >>> likely to >>>>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind, >>>>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and >commands that >>>>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools. >>>>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind >>> and the AD >>>>> dns tool works for me. >>>>> >>>>> Rowland >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>>>> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >>>>> >>>>> >>> -- >>> With best regards, >>> >>> Tabolin Yuriy >>> System administrator >>> Speech Technology Center >>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >>> >>> >> > >Done, added what I think Yuriy meant, let me know if it is >incorrect :-) > >Rowland > > >-- >To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba > >
On 19/08/15 11:56, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:> typo in : > > Conditional forwarders are implemented yet. The same error message as above is returned. > change > Conditional forwarders are not implemented yet. The same error message as above is returned. > > :-) good work :-) > > Greetz, > > Louis > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Rowland Penny >> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 12:41 >> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion >> >> On 19/08/15 11:15, L.P.H. van Belle wrote: >>> ah yes.. >>> that are the "limitation", but know limitations ( for us ) >>> >>> Rowland, this is something to add on the wiki. >>> (here : https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/DNS_Administration ) >>> >>> ;-) >>> >>> Greetz, >>> >>> Louis >>> >>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens >> Yuriy Tabolin >>>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 11:35 >>>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion >>>> >>>> 19.08.2015 11:43, L.P.H. van Belle ??????????: >>>>>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most >>>> functions not work >>>>>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation >>>> likely to >>>>>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind, >>>>>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and >> commands that >>>>>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools. >>>>>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind >>>> and the AD >>>>>> dns tool works for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rowland >>>>> Same here, samba 4.2.3 with bind dlz, just added about 100 >>>> entries with the win7 RATS tools in the dns. >>>>> Works great. >>>> A basic tasks works great, I agree. But there are examples >>>> what doesn't >>>> works with samba internal DNS: >>>> 1. Scavenging. There is the error "This function is not supported on >>>> this system" >>>> 2. Conditional forwarders. The same error as above. >>>> 3. Creating a true static records. When I create any static >> record it >>>> has timestamp and option "Delete this record when it become >> stale". In >>>> true Active Directory static records has timestamps "static" >>>> and cannot >>>> accidently deletes. >>>> It is only that I remembered. When I thoroughly studied >> samba4 DNS, I >>>> found more functions that doesn't works. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Greetz, >>>>> >>>>> Louis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>>>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens >>>> Rowland Penny >>>>>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 10:22 >>>>>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >>>>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19/08/15 01:57, John Gardeniers wrote: >>>>>>> On the Samba wiki at >>>>>>> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_Internal_DNS there is the >>>>>>> following: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have chosen the internal DNS as backend for your >>>> environment, >>>>>>> there are only two options that can be added to your smb.conf, to >>>>>>> control the behaviour of DNS at this point: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # Don't allow any updates | allow unsigned updates | only >>>>>> allow signed >>>>>>> updates >>>>>>> allow dns updates = False | nonsecure | signed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # If recursive queries = yes is set, the following is also needed >>>>>>> dns forwarder = <ip addr of external dns server> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the page needs some urgent editing because self >>>>>> contradictions >>>>>>> merely create confusion. Specifically, there should be no >>>>>> reference to >>>>>>> "recursive queries = yes" in the comment if that is not >>>> even a valid >>>>>>> option. Alternatively, there could be a comment >> explaining that the >>>>>>> "dns forwarder" automatically actives recursion. >>>>>> OK, page updated. >>>>>> >>>>>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most >>>> functions not work >>>>>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation >>>> likely to >>>>>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind, >>>>>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and >> commands that >>>>>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools. >>>>>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind >>>> and the AD >>>>>> dns tool works for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rowland >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>>>>> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> With best regards, >>>> >>>> Tabolin Yuriy >>>> System administrator >>>> Speech Technology Center >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>>> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >>>> >>>> >> Done, added what I think Yuriy meant, let me know if it is >> incorrect :-) >> >> Rowland >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >> >> >Drat, brain working faster than fingers, well that's my excuse :-D Anyway it is now fixed. Rowland