Hi all I'm trying to set up dfs for (among other things) profiles (i don't know if this is a good example, but that is out of the scope of my current question) I've been following these instructions: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/msdfs.html http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/samba-domain-dfs-samba-4-help-209347402.html as well as the hints given in the thread *'Samba4 DFS Support'* on this list My current setup is as follows Win7 client joined to domain stp4.stp.internal *2 DCs:* * *samba4-2* ** samba4-3* both with DNS backend BIND_DLZ (only one instance of bind running atm, on host *samba4-2*) On both DCs i have the following folder structures root at samba4-2:/usr/local/samba# ls -lRa srv/ srv/: total 12 drwxr-sr-x 3 root staff 4096 May 25 23:26 . drwxr-sr-x 11 root staff 4096 May 25 23:26 .. drwxr-sr-x 2 root staff 4096 May 26 09:52 dfs srv/dfs: total 8 drwxr-sr-x 2 root staff 4096 May 26 09:52 . drwxr-sr-x 3 root staff 4096 May 25 23:26 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 41 May 26 09:52 dfs_profiles -> msdfs:samba4-2\profiles,samba4-3\profiles This is the relevant part of my config: [global] host msdfs = yes log level = 2 msdfs:10 [dfs] path = /usr/local/samba/srv/dfs msdfs root = Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Note: running testparm -vv gives me a weird entry in [global]: msdfs root = No Why does this appear there? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *What works? * When going to either of the DCs directly and into the dfs share, i can access the folder dfs_profiles I then see the following in my log.smbd (e.g. on samba4-2) [2013/05/26 20:52:46.564445, 2] ../source3/modules/vfs_acl_xattr.c:193(connect_acl_xattr) connect_acl_xattr: setting 'inherit acls = true' 'dos filemode = true' and 'force unknown acl user = true' for service IPC$ [2013/05/26 20:52:46.581753, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:115(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: temp = |samba4-2\dfs| after trimming \'s [2013/05/26 20:52:46.581882, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:140(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: hostname: samba4-2 [2013/05/26 20:52:46.581987, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:182(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: servicename: dfs [2013/05/26 20:52:46.583205, 2] ../source3/modules/vfs_acl_xattr.c:193(connect_acl_xattr) connect_acl_xattr: setting 'inherit acls = true' 'dos filemode = true' and 'force unknown acl user = true' for service dfs [2013/05/26 20:52:46.598748, 2] ../source3/smbd/service.c:848(make_connection_snum) 10.0.200.11 (ipv4:10.0.200.11:62136) connect to service dfs initially as user STP4\Administrator (uid=0, gid=20513) (pid 27834) [2013/05/26 20:52:46.599798, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:115(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: temp = |samba4-2\dfs| after trimming \'s [2013/05/26 20:52:46.599910, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:140(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: hostname: samba4-2 [2013/05/26 20:52:46.600040, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:182(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: servicename: dfs [2013/05/26 20:52:46.600145, 5, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:786(dfs_redirect) dfs_redirect: self-referral. [2013/05/26 20:52:46.607068, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:115(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: temp = |samba4-2\dfs| after trimming \'s [2013/05/26 20:52:46.607146, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:140(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: hostname: samba4-2 [2013/05/26 20:52:46.607239, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:182(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: servicename: dfs [2013/05/26 20:52:46.607308, 5, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:786(dfs_redirect) dfs_redirect: self-referral. [2013/05/26 20:52:46.608460, 5, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:562(is_msdfs_link_internal) is_msdfs_link_internal: ./dfs_profiles -> msdfs: [2013/05/26 20:52:46.614053, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:115(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: temp = |samba4-2\dfs\dfs_profiles| after trimming \'s [2013/05/26 20:52:46.614128, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:140(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: hostname: samba4-2 [2013/05/26 20:52:46.614197, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:182(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: servicename: dfs [2013/05/26 20:52:46.614266, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:216(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: rest of the path: dfs_profiles [2013/05/26 20:52:46.614365, 2] ../source3/modules/vfs_acl_xattr.c:193(connect_acl_xattr) connect_acl_xattr: setting 'inherit acls = true' 'dos filemode = true' and 'force unknown acl user = true' for service dfs [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624432, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:624(dfs_path_lookup) dfs_path_lookup: Conn path = /usr/local/samba/srv/dfs reqpath dfs_profiles [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624558, 5, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:562(is_msdfs_link_internal) is_msdfs_link_internal: dfs_profiles -> msdfs:samba4-2\profiles,samba4-3\profiles [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624630, 6, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:659(dfs_path_lookup) dfs_path_lookup: \samba4-2\dfs\dfs_profiles resolves to a valid dfs link msdfs:samba4-2\profiles,samba4-3\profiles. [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624706, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:457(parse_msdfs_symlink) parse_msdfs_symlink: count=2 [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624779, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:493(parse_msdfs_symlink) parse_msdfs_symlink: Created alt path: \samba4-2\profiles [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624850, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:493(parse_msdfs_symlink) parse_msdfs_symlink: Created alt path: \samba4-3\profiles [2013/05/26 20:52:46.655626, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:115(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: temp = |samba4-2\dfs| after trimming \'s [2013/05/26 20:52:46.655746, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:140(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: hostname: samba4-2 [2013/05/26 20:52:46.655853, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:182(parse_dfs_path) parse_dfs_path: servicename: dfs [2013/05/26 20:52:46.655957, 5, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:786(dfs_redirect) dfs_redirect: self-referral. *What does NOT work? * Trying to access the dfs share via the domain name: \\stp4.stp.internal\dfs gives me *nothing* whatsoever in the logs. Instead i get these error messages on my win7 client: "Access denied you may not have permission..." etc (error code 80070035) *Questions:* 1. Am I misinterpreting the documentation? I was also under the impression that i would be able to access the subfolders inside the dfs-root directly... (which doesn't seme to be) 2. Does it just not work yet in samba4 and do i need to be patient? 3. Is there some other logger i need to turn on the see what is going wrong, and if so, what logger would that be? (i could also turn on all on level 10, but i fear i would be swamped...) -- Michael De Groote ICT-coordinator Sint-Pietersschool Korbeek-Lo ICT-support Sancta Maria Basisschool Leuven
Bah, i forgot to mention the version: Version 4.1.0pre1-GIT-392b01f 2013/5/26 Michael De Groote <ict at sint-pietersschool.be>> Hi all > > I'm trying to set up dfs for (among other things) profiles (i don't know > if this is a good example, but that is out of the scope of my current > question) > I've been following these instructions: > http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/msdfs.html > > http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/samba-domain-dfs-samba-4-help-209347402.html > as well as the hints given in the thread *'Samba4 DFS Support'* on this > list > > My current setup is as follows > > Win7 client joined to domain stp4.stp.internal > > *2 DCs:* > * *samba4-2* > ** samba4-3* > both with DNS backend BIND_DLZ (only one instance of bind running atm, on > host *samba4-2*) > > On both DCs i have the following folder structures > > root at samba4-2:/usr/local/samba# ls -lRa srv/ > srv/: > total 12 > drwxr-sr-x 3 root staff 4096 May 25 23:26 . > drwxr-sr-x 11 root staff 4096 May 25 23:26 .. > drwxr-sr-x 2 root staff 4096 May 26 09:52 dfs > > srv/dfs: > total 8 > drwxr-sr-x 2 root staff 4096 May 26 09:52 . > drwxr-sr-x 3 root staff 4096 May 25 23:26 .. > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 41 May 26 09:52 dfs_profiles -> > msdfs:samba4-2\profiles,samba4-3\profiles > > This is the relevant part of my config: > [global] > host msdfs = yes > log level = 2 msdfs:10 > [dfs] > path = /usr/local/samba/srv/dfs > msdfs root = Yes > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Note: running testparm -vv gives me a weird entry in [global]: > msdfs root = No > Why does this appear there? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *What works? > * > When going to either of the DCs directly and into the dfs share, i can > access the folder dfs_profiles > I then see the following in my log.smbd (e.g. on samba4-2) > > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.564445, 2] > ../source3/modules/vfs_acl_xattr.c:193(connect_acl_xattr) > connect_acl_xattr: setting 'inherit acls = true' 'dos filemode = true' > and 'force unknown acl user = true' for service IPC$ > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.581753, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:115(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: temp = |samba4-2\dfs| after trimming \'s > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.581882, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:140(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: hostname: samba4-2 > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.581987, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:182(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: servicename: dfs > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.583205, 2] > ../source3/modules/vfs_acl_xattr.c:193(connect_acl_xattr) > connect_acl_xattr: setting 'inherit acls = true' 'dos filemode = true' > and 'force unknown acl user = true' for service dfs > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.598748, 2] > ../source3/smbd/service.c:848(make_connection_snum) > 10.0.200.11 (ipv4:10.0.200.11:62136) connect to service dfs initially > as user STP4\Administrator (uid=0, gid=20513) (pid 27834) > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.599798, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:115(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: temp = |samba4-2\dfs| after trimming \'s > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.599910, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:140(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: hostname: samba4-2 > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.600040, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:182(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: servicename: dfs > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.600145, 5, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:786(dfs_redirect) > dfs_redirect: self-referral. > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.607068, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:115(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: temp = |samba4-2\dfs| after trimming \'s > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.607146, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:140(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: hostname: samba4-2 > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.607239, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:182(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: servicename: dfs > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.607308, 5, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:786(dfs_redirect) > dfs_redirect: self-referral. > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.608460, 5, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:562(is_msdfs_link_internal) > is_msdfs_link_internal: ./dfs_profiles -> msdfs: > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.614053, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:115(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: temp = |samba4-2\dfs\dfs_profiles| after trimming \'s > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.614128, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:140(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: hostname: samba4-2 > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.614197, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:182(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: servicename: dfs > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.614266, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:216(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: rest of the path: dfs_profiles > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.614365, 2] > ../source3/modules/vfs_acl_xattr.c:193(connect_acl_xattr) > connect_acl_xattr: setting 'inherit acls = true' 'dos filemode = true' > and 'force unknown acl user = true' for service dfs > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624432, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:624(dfs_path_lookup) > dfs_path_lookup: Conn path = /usr/local/samba/srv/dfs reqpath > dfs_profiles > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624558, 5, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:562(is_msdfs_link_internal) > is_msdfs_link_internal: dfs_profiles -> > msdfs:samba4-2\profiles,samba4-3\profiles > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624630, 6, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:659(dfs_path_lookup) > dfs_path_lookup: \samba4-2\dfs\dfs_profiles resolves to a valid dfs link > msdfs:samba4-2\profiles,samba4-3\profiles. > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624706, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:457(parse_msdfs_symlink) > parse_msdfs_symlink: count=2 > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624779, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:493(parse_msdfs_symlink) > parse_msdfs_symlink: Created alt path: \samba4-2\profiles > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.624850, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:493(parse_msdfs_symlink) > parse_msdfs_symlink: Created alt path: \samba4-3\profiles > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.655626, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:115(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: temp = |samba4-2\dfs| after trimming \'s > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.655746, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:140(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: hostname: samba4-2 > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.655853, 10, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:182(parse_dfs_path) > parse_dfs_path: servicename: dfs > [2013/05/26 20:52:46.655957, 5, pid=27834, effective(0, 20513), real(0, > 0), class=msdfs] ../source3/smbd/msdfs.c:786(dfs_redirect) > dfs_redirect: self-referral. > > > *What does NOT work? > * > Trying to access the dfs share via the domain name: > \\stp4.stp.internal\dfs gives me *nothing* whatsoever in the logs. > Instead i get these error messages on my win7 client: > "Access denied you may not have permission..." etc (error code 80070035) > > *Questions:* > 1. Am I misinterpreting the documentation? I was also under the impression > that i would be able to access the subfolders inside the dfs-root > directly... (which doesn't seme to be) > 2. Does it just not work yet in samba4 and do i need to be patient? > 3. Is there some other logger i need to turn on the see what is going > wrong, and if so, what logger would that be? (i could also turn on all on > level 10, but i fear i would be swamped...) > > > -- > Michael De Groote > ICT-coordinator Sint-Pietersschool Korbeek-Lo > ICT-support Sancta Maria Basisschool Leuven >-- Michael De Groote ICT-coordinator Sint-Pietersschool Korbeek-Lo ICT-support Sancta Maria Basisschool Leuven
On 5/26/2013 3:10 PM, Michael De Groote wrote:> Hi all > > I'm trying to set up dfs for (among other things) profiles (i don't know if > this is a good example, but that is out of the scope of my current question) > I've been following these instructions: > http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/msdfs.html > http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/samba-domain-dfs-samba-4-help-209347402.html > as well as the hints given in the thread *'Samba4 DFS Support'* on this > list[snip]> *Questions:* > 1. Am I misinterpreting the documentation? I was also under the impression > that i would be able to access the subfolders inside the dfs-root > directly... (which doesn't seme to be) > 2. Does it just not work yet in samba4 and do i need to be patient? > 3. Is there some other logger i need to turn on the see what is going > wrong, and if so, what logger would that be? (i could also turn on all on > level 10, but i fear i would be swamped...)1.) You should be able to access sub directories inside a DFS root. 2.) This shouldn't be an issue since you're using the Samba-3 file server (smbd). I don't think the ntvfs file server in Samba-4 supports DFS though. 3.) I'd use the following logging options to get to the bottom of this: "log level = 2 msdfs:8 auth:5 winbind:5 idmap:5 acls:3". Or something to that effect. You might even set log level to 1 and then only look at msdfs logging until you know what you want to take a closer look at.
grr.. replied to wrong address before :/ *sigh* ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michael De Groote <ict at sint-pietersschool.be> Date: 2013/5/31 Subject: Re: [Samba] samba4 & (domain) dfs To: Scott Lovenberg <scott.lovenberg at gmail.com> A short update: Using a samba client, i CAN access the dfs shares, so it seems to be a problem with Win7 doing things differently. I've tried to do some capturing for the following 1. Win7 client (domain member) FAIL 2. samba client (domain member, smbclient from one of the DCs) SUCCESS 3. samba client v3.6.3 (non-domain member) SUCCESS 4. samba client v4.0 alpha18 (non domain member) FAIL Attached are the wireshark logs. One thing that is immediately apparent is that the clients that connect using SMB are the *only ones* that succeed: * dionysos-success-samba-3.6.3 -> SMB, samba 3.6.3 * samba4-nondomain-success-samba4.0.5 ->SMB, samba 4.1.0pre1-GIT-392b01f The other clients fail: * win7-fail -> SMB2, Win7 SP1 Enterprise 64-bit * dionysos-fail-samba4.0alpha18 -> SMB, samba 4.0 alpha18 [UPDATE] just tried setting the SMB version on win7 to 1, following commands specified here: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprogeneral/thread/e1da45cf-45f1-4fe1-889a-ccd61c924303 Alas, still no luck. Michael 2013/5/29 Scott Lovenberg <scott.lovenberg at gmail.com>> On 5/26/2013 3:10 PM, Michael De Groote wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> I'm trying to set up dfs for (among other things) profiles (i don't know >> if >> this is a good example, but that is out of the scope of my current >> question) >> I've been following these instructions: >> http://www.samba.org/samba/**docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-**Collection/msdfs.html<http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/msdfs.html> >> http://us.generation-nt.com/**answer/samba-domain-dfs-samba-** >> 4-help-209347402.html<http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/samba-domain-dfs-samba-4-help-209347402.html> >> as well as the hints given in the thread *'Samba4 DFS Support'* on this >> list >> > [snip] > >> *Questions:* >> >> 1. Am I misinterpreting the documentation? I was also under the impression >> that i would be able to access the subfolders inside the dfs-root >> directly... (which doesn't seme to be) >> 2. Does it just not work yet in samba4 and do i need to be patient? >> 3. Is there some other logger i need to turn on the see what is going >> wrong, and if so, what logger would that be? (i could also turn on all on >> level 10, but i fear i would be swamped...) >> > > 1.) You should be able to access sub directories inside a DFS root. > 2.) This shouldn't be an issue since you're using the Samba-3 file server > (smbd). I don't think the ntvfs file server in Samba-4 supports DFS though. > 3.) I'd use the following logging options to get to the bottom of this: > "log level = 2 msdfs:8 auth:5 winbind:5 idmap:5 acls:3". Or something to > that effect. You might even set log level to 1 and then only look at msdfs > logging until you know what you want to take a closer look at. >-- Michael De Groote ICT-coordinator Sint-Pietersschool Korbeek-Lo ICT-support Sancta Maria Basisschool Leuven -- Michael De Groote ICT-coordinator Sint-Pietersschool Korbeek-Lo ICT-support Sancta Maria Basisschool Leuven