samba - Jan 2007 - Should samba be split between client & server

The more I use samba and the more I read the e-mail coming into this 
list, I believe that a new look should be taken into how samba his 
configured, since more and more people are having problems with setup up 
of samba.

Samba is basically  used in 2 different ways:

"client") In a Windows ADS environment where you want to access 
facilities on UNIX servers:
	printers: - print to Unix printers.
	File-system: - access to Unix files plus ACL.

"server") In a Windows environment where you don't have (or
don't want)
a windows ADS
	Samba Domain Server - Samba replaces the Microsoft ADS


I know you will say that it does all these things, but people are having 
many problems setting it up (i.e. in a "client" mode you need an ldap 
server if you want ACL to work) OR is it simply down to documentation OR 
user error!

Andrew
PS.
I have been using samba for years and I would not be able to live with out!

> Samba is basically  used in 2 different ways:
It can also be used as a PDC without ADS involved at all, using Windows 
XP clients. Highly recommended. IMHO I think SAMBA is more or less 
designed as a replacement for a windows server. That is the beauty of 
SAMBA, you can keep you Windows clients, and rid yourself of the high 
overhead costs of running a Windows ADS. I think much of the difficulty 
I am seeing on this board comes when someone tries to run SAMBA as a 
client or domain member to a Windows ADS machine.
Configuring SAMBA as a PDC (especially with LDAP and Roaming Profiles) 
is definitely not for the faint of heart. It is very challenging, but 
you will be well rewarded. There is ample documentation out there to 
help you make it work.
I am just wondering what issues we will all face with the coming of 
Windows Vista. Once I start purchasing client machines with Vista 
pre-installed, how will this impact making that new machine a member of 
a SAMBA controlled domain?

*Jason Baker
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Andrew Watkins wrote:
>
> The more I use samba and the more I read the e-mail coming into this 
> list, I believe that a new look should be taken into how samba his 
> configured, since more and more people are having problems with setup 
> up of samba.
>
> Samba is basically  used in 2 different ways:
>
> "client") In a Windows ADS environment where you want to access 
> facilities on UNIX servers:
>     printers: - print to Unix printers.
>     File-system: - access to Unix files plus ACL.
>
> "server") In a Windows environment where you don't have (or
don't
> want) a windows ADS
>     Samba Domain Server - Samba replaces the Microsoft ADS
>
>
> I know you will say that it does all these things, but people are 
> having many problems setting it up (i.e. in a "client" mode you
need
> an ldap server if you want ACL to work) OR is it simply down to 
> documentation OR user error!
>
> Andrew
> PS.
> I have been using samba for years and I would not be able to live with 
> out!
>

On 1/29/07, Jason Baker <jbaker@glastender.com>
wrote:
> > Samba is basically  used in 2 different ways:
> It can also be used as a PDC without ADS involved at all, using Windows
> XP clients. Highly recommended.
This is how I use it.  When I think of it I do have a PDC that can
easily be converted to a file server when needed and few file servers
that can be promoted to a PDC if the PDC dies so at least for me this
split makes no sense at least with samba3.

John

Andrew Watkins schrieb:
>
> The more I use samba and the more I read the e-mail coming into this 
> list, I believe that a new look should be taken into how samba his 
> configured, since more and more people are having problems with setup 
> up of samba.
>
> Samba is basically  used in 2 different ways:
>
> "client") In a Windows ADS environment where you want to access 
> facilities on UNIX servers:
>     printers: - print to Unix printers.
>     File-system: - access to Unix files plus ACL.
>
> "server") In a Windows environment where you don't have (or
don't
> want) a windows ADS
>     Samba Domain Server - Samba replaces the Microsoft ADS
>
I think there are a lot more Applications and i would not call them
"Client" and "Server" the way you do.
>
> I know you will say that it does all these things, but people are 
> having many problems setting it up (i.e. in a "client" mode you
need
> an ldap server if you want ACL to work) OR is it simply down to 
> documentation OR user error!
>
I am not sure what ACL u mean. We are using Posix-ACL (simulating
NTFS-ACLs) without LDAP.

Best regards,
Martin Sundmacher