Brian I might suggest a couple of setting changes on your XP machines: 1) Open services and stop/disable Web Client 2) Open windows explorer, go to tools>folder options, click the View tab, and uncheck the "Automatically search for network folders and printers" (I'm assuming Windows XP Professional on these settings) Restart and try your printers again. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Brian Merrell [mailto:beantoo@tristatesurvey.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:50 AM To: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad? Thanks for your response Jerry. Yes. These are all windows XP machines. We have about four printers here in the office (all HP hehe). Only two computers have McAfee Firewalls installed, the rest do not have firewalls. We are on a 100 mbps ethernet with a 16 port hub. Nothing too fancy. AutoCad is a strange beast. No matter what printer you have set up as your default printer, when you click the print icon or give the print command, AutoCad comes up with no printer selected in the print dialog, and the user selects the plotter each time (although you can save your print selections for each drawing). I have even tried setting the default printer to the "PDF distiller" and it still takes the same ammount of time for the print dialog to come up. However, I was just tinkering with the print settings and noticed that the print dialog comes up normally some times. i.e. If you click cancel on the print dialog and then hit the print icon again quickly, it seems to come up normally. The other mysterious problem is the time it takes to save. I just saw a guy behind me try to save a drawing and it took about 20 seconds. Something that never happened before when the files were hosted on an older windows XP machine with a heavier load. I'm all out of ideas and really don't want to go back to windows. brian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald (Jerry) Carter" <jerry@samba.org> To: "Brian Merrell" <beantoo@tristatesurvey.com> Cc: <samba@lists.samba.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brian Merrell wrote: > | No good. It's still amazingly slow. It seems to perform > | just fine until the user tries to print. There is a huge > | delay before the print dialog comes up, and when the user > | tries to save there is another huge delay. The > | problem seems to be only with AutoCad. > > Sorry I'm late on this thread. > > Are these XP clients? Do the clients have a > active firewall installed. If the delay is only > when printing, it is probabl either > > (a) a very chatty printer driver, or > (b) timeouts when the client tries to > ~ open a print change notify handle. > > > > > cheers, jerry > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hewlett-Packard ------------------------- http://www.hp.com > SAMBA Team ---------------------- http://www.samba.org > GnuPG Key ---- http://www.plainjoe.org/gpg_public.asc > "...a hundred billion castaways looking for a home." ----------- Sting > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFAxcznIR7qMdg1EfYRAicSAKDPzwf0vrIpsTgrln1hFnUlZ/VVOgCfXjs8 > XYq6cwr7pC7oqkM0DHab0eU> =I89Z > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >-- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Brian, 1. Which release of AutoCAD are you using? 2. Are the support files for AutoCAD on the client or the server? 3. Are you using cups? 4. Is it true that your plotter settings are not being saved with the drawing? Was this true when you were using a windows server? 5. Normally when AutoCAD is opening the print dialog box in an existing drawing, it is trying to find the printer that was used by the last session of Autocad. If it can't find that printer, it produces the printer "none". Are you loading your printers from the server such that each client has the identical printer name? 6. Are the network directories being used by AutoCAD the same as being used by the other programs that don't exhibit the long save times? We use AutoCAD 2000, 2002, & 2004 with RH E3.0 and Samba 3.0.2-6.3E with no delays in saving or printing and have achieved better performance than the previous W2k server. With a little more information we might be able to assist in finding the bottleneck. Terry -----Original Message----- From: samba-bounces+teleiott=tke-companies.com@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-bounces+teleiott=tke-companies.com@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Bob Turner Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:45 AM To: 'Brian Merrell'; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad? Brian I might suggest a couple of setting changes on your XP machines: 1) Open services and stop/disable Web Client 2) Open windows explorer, go to tools>folder options, click the View tab, and uncheck the "Automatically search for network folders and printers" (I'm assuming Windows XP Professional on these settings) Restart and try your printers again. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Brian Merrell [mailto:beantoo@tristatesurvey.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:50 AM To: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad? Thanks for your response Jerry. Yes. These are all windows XP machines. We have about four printers here in the office (all HP hehe). Only two computers have McAfee Firewalls installed, the rest do not have firewalls. We are on a 100 mbps ethernet with a 16 port hub. Nothing too fancy. AutoCad is a strange beast. No matter what printer you have set up as your default printer, when you click the print icon or give the print command, AutoCad comes up with no printer selected in the print dialog, and the user selects the plotter each time (although you can save your print selections for each drawing). I have even tried setting the default printer to the "PDF distiller" and it still takes the same ammount of time for the print dialog to come up. However, I was just tinkering with the print settings and noticed that the print dialog comes up normally some times. i.e. If you click cancel on the print dialog and then hit the print icon again quickly, it seems to come up normally. The other mysterious problem is the time it takes to save. I just saw a guy behind me try to save a drawing and it took about 20 seconds. Something that never happened before when the files were hosted on an older windows XP machine with a heavier load. I'm all out of ideas and really don't want to go back to windows. brian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald (Jerry) Carter" <jerry@samba.org> To: "Brian Merrell" <beantoo@tristatesurvey.com> Cc: <samba@lists.samba.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brian Merrell wrote: > | No good. It's still amazingly slow. It seems to perform > | just fine until the user tries to print. There is a huge > | delay before the print dialog comes up, and when the user > | tries to save there is another huge delay. The > | problem seems to be only with AutoCad. > > Sorry I'm late on this thread. > > Are these XP clients? Do the clients have a > active firewall installed. If the delay is only > when printing, it is probabl either > > (a) a very chatty printer driver, or > (b) timeouts when the client tries to > ~ open a print change notify handle. > > > > > cheers, jerry > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hewlett-Packard ------------------------- http://www.hp.com > SAMBA Team ---------------------- http://www.samba.org > GnuPG Key ---- http://www.plainjoe.org/gpg_public.asc > "...a hundred billion castaways looking for a home." ----------- Sting > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFAxcznIR7qMdg1EfYRAicSAKDPzwf0vrIpsTgrln1hFnUlZ/VVOgCfXjs8 > XYq6cwr7pC7oqkM0DHab0eU> =I89Z > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >-- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Make sure your network doesn't have any problems with mismatched duplex settings, excessive collisions, etc. I had this problem once and it crippled anything that tried to copy a large file to the server. It showed up worst with AutoCAD because it generated the most network traffic.
Stefan.Iven@voessing.de
2004-Jun-09 05:52 UTC
Antwort: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?
Hello, I had that problem, too. The reason therefor were bad rights on the printer. That solved the problem for us. Maybe that can helpyou. MfG Stefan
> We use AutoCAD 2000, 2002, & 2004 with RH E3.0 and Samba 3.0.2-6.3E withno> delays in saving or printing and have achieved better performance than the > previous W2k server. With a little more information we might be able to > assist in finding the bottleneck. > > Terry >AutoCad 2002 seems to work very very fast, but only one workstation in the office has 2002 installed. Can you tell me what kernel you are using and which filesystems you have on your shares? Are you using ReiserFS? Thanks, Brian.