samba - Jun 2004 - 2 passwords when loging from Windows 98 to samba PDC

Hello.

I have setup a local network where Windows 98
workstations authenticates against a samba
server PDC running on linux, and it is working.

But there is a little annoyance: Windows 98
is handling 2 passwords:

1) the network password (used with the samba PDC)

2) the windows password (used with the Windows
   desktop)

Windows users can change their passwords from
the workstation, but the desktop password is
kept locally. If they change the passwords
in one workstation and then login in another
workstation, the passwords will be different.

I would like to eliminate the need for second
password and kepp only the first. Is it possible?

If not, I would like to keep the desktop
passwords at the samba server. Is that possible?

Regards.

Romildo

Hi,

What I do is:
del C:\windows\*.pwl from a DOS prompt, then log the user in.  When it asks
for the password the second time, make sure it's blank and click on OK.  You
won't have to go through this again.

If this wasn't what you were asking for, sorry.
Bob

romildo@uber.com.br wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I have setup a local network where Windows 98
> workstations authenticates against a samba
> server PDC running on linux, and it is working.
>
> But there is a little annoyance: Windows 98
> is handling 2 passwords:
>
> 1) the network password (used with the samba PDC)
>
> 2) the windows password (used with the Windows
>    desktop)
>
> Windows users can change their passwords from
> the workstation, but the desktop password is
> kept locally. If they change the passwords
> in one workstation and then login in another
> workstation, the passwords will be different.
>
> I would like to eliminate the need for second
> password and kepp only the first. Is it possible?
>
> If not, I would like to keep the desktop
> passwords at the samba server. Is that possible?
>
> Regards.
>
> Romildo
>
>
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Hi,
AFAIK, you can not obtain what you want with Win98-Clients.
Why? this is a Limitation of Win98.
It does not realy get incorporated into a domain,
it only handles it as a "little bit better workgroup".
And for that does its own authentication stuff
  and does not trust the PDC.
No Mater if the PDC is samba, NT-x or win2k
Christoph

romildo@uber.com.br schrieb:
> Hello.
> 
> I have setup a local network where Windows 98
> workstations authenticates against a samba
> server PDC running on linux, and it is working.
> 
> But there is a little annoyance: Windows 98
> is handling 2 passwords:
> 
> 1) the network password (used with the samba PDC)
> 
> 2) the windows password (used with the Windows
>    desktop)
> 
> Windows users can change their passwords from
> the workstation, but the desktop password is
> kept locally. If they change the passwords
> in one workstation and then login in another
> workstation, the passwords will be different.
> 
> I would like to eliminate the need for second
> password and kepp only the first. Is it possible?
> 
> If not, I would like to keep the desktop
> passwords at the samba server. Is that possible?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Romildo

There is a way to do this .....
You can edit the policies using poledit. You can set that no one can log on
to the computers unless authenticated by a server. Here are a few resources
for you to read..
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/98/all/reskit/en-us/part2/wrkc08.mspx

http://www.zisman.ca/poledit/

I have done this many times its almost like xp or w2k standard network
settings.. But you will have to write a login script to get the win98 to map
to the home folder manually.
Let me know if you need help.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christoph Scheeder" <christoph.scheeder@scheeder.de>
To: <romildo@uber.com.br>
Cc: <samba@lists.samba.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Samba] 2 passwords when loging from Windows 98 to samba PDC

> Hi,
> AFAIK, you can not obtain what you want with Win98-Clients.
> Why? this is a Limitation of Win98.
> It does not realy get incorporated into a domain,
> it only handles it as a "little bit better workgroup".
> And for that does its own authentication stuff
>   and does not trust the PDC.
> No Mater if the PDC is samba, NT-x or win2k
> Christoph
>
> romildo@uber.com.br schrieb:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > I have setup a local network where Windows 98
> > workstations authenticates against a samba
> > server PDC running on linux, and it is working.
> >
> > But there is a little annoyance: Windows 98
> > is handling 2 passwords:
> >
> > 1) the network password (used with the samba PDC)
> >
> > 2) the windows password (used with the Windows
> >    desktop)
> >
> > Windows users can change their passwords from
> > the workstation, but the desktop password is
> > kept locally. If they change the passwords
> > in one workstation and then login in another
> > workstation, the passwords will be different.
> >
> > I would like to eliminate the need for second
> > password and kepp only the first. Is it possible?
> >
> > If not, I would like to keep the desktop
> > passwords at the samba server. Is that possible?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Romildo
>
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