Applications under Win 98 2nd Ed updated the modification date of all files accessed, in the normal way. Upgraded to Win2000 professional. Same Win applications now do not change the file times. Not even touch has any effect. RedHat Linux 6.2, Samba 2.0.6 Regards, Neil A Fraser North East Consultants TEL: +27 (11) 468 2892 FAX: by prior arrangement CELL: +27 (82) 903 4962 Web site: www.necon.co.za More details on data communications and flying consultants at: www.necon.co.za