samba - Jan 2004 - PDF printer and wiidows driver auto-download.

Hello =)

I got some problem configuring a pdf printer and make windows
to download automagically drivers from [print$] share on my
samba 3.0.1 server.

Well, I've configured a pdf printer (based on this doc:
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue72/bright.html), tested it
and it works pretty well =)

To install the printer on windows side, I connect to the host,
browse to samba server, right-click on the printer and select
"connect". Windows then ask me to install appropriate drivers.
I choose postscript drivers and install them. Then I test the
virtual printer and it works perfectly =)

But now, users want me to configure samba so when they access
the printer through windows explorer, they do not have to
install printer driver, they are automagically downloaded from
samba server. I've seen in the doc it is possible for a real
printer, so I've tried to do the same for my virtual printer.
I've located files required, installed them, defined
association between  my virtual printer and its drivers, you
know... I've just followed the doc. And everything seemed ok.
But when I try to connect the the virtual printer, windows
still asks me for printer drivers =(

Have you got any idea? Does anyone has alredy done such thing?
One thing I'm not sure is if I need to use an /etc/printcap
file with a fake printer declaration. 

Is CUPS more appropriate?

Thanks you for your help =)

cedric.

Here is the info you may required:
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- Samba version 3.0.1 self-compiled
- Debian Woody, up-to-date, 2.4.23 kernel (I know 2.4.24 is out =)

Command output:
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- /usr/local/samba-3.0.1/bin >> ./rpcclient -U linback -c
'enumdrivers 3' 192.168.111.144
Password:

[Windows NT x86]
Printer Driver Info 3:
        Version: [3]
        Driver Name: [PdfPrinter]
        Architecture: [Windows NT x86]
        Driver Path: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PSCRIPT5.DLL]
        Datafile: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\HP_CLJ85.PPD]
        Configfile: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PS5UI.DLL]
        Helpfile: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PSCRIPT.HLP]

        Dependentfiles: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PSCRIPT5.DLL]
        Dependentfiles: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PSCRIPT.NTF]
        Dependentfiles: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PSCRIPT.HLP]
        Dependentfiles: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PS5UI.DLL]
        Dependentfiles: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\HP_CLJ85.PPD]

        Monitorname: []
        Defaultdatatype: [RAW]


[Windows NT x86]
Printer Driver Info 3:
        Version: [3]
        Driver Name: [PdfPrinter]
        Architecture: [Windows NT x86]
        Driver Path: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PSCRIPT5.DLL]
        Datafile: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\HP_CLJ85.PPD]
        Configfile: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PS5UI.DLL]
        Helpfile: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PSCRIPT.HLP]

        Dependentfiles: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PSCRIPT5.DLL]
        Dependentfiles: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PSCRIPT.NTF]
        Dependentfiles: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PSCRIPT.HLP]
        Dependentfiles: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\PS5UI.DLL]
        Dependentfiles: [\\faierie\print$\W32X86\3\HP_CLJ85.PPD]

        Monitorname: []
        Defaultdatatype: [RAW]

- /usr/local/samba-3.0.1/bin >> ./rpcclient -U linback -c
'enumprinters 2' 192.168..111.144
Password:
        servername:[\\faierie]
        printername:[\\faierie\PdfPrinter]
        sharename:[PdfPrinter]
        portname:[Samba Printer Port]
        drivername:[PdfPrinter]
        comment:[]
        location:[]
        sepfile:[]
        printprocessor:[winprint]
        datatype:[RAW]
        parameters:[]
        attributes:[0x1018]
        priority:[0x1]
        defaultpriority:[0x1]
        starttime:[0x0]
        untiltime:[0x0]
        status:[0x0]
        cjobs:[0x0]
        averageppm:[0x0]

smb.conf
--------

# Global parameters
[global]
        workgroup = FANTASY
        netbios name = FAIERIE
        server string = PDF print server based on GNU/Linux
and Samba.
        security = DOMAIN
        obey pam restrictions = Yes
        password server = sdc01
        preferred master = No
        local master = No
        domain master = No
        idmap uid = 10000-20000
        idmap gid = 10000-20000
        template homedir = /home/samba/%U
        winbind separator = _
        invalid users = root
        printer admin = @ntadmin, linback

[homes]
        comment = %U's home directory.
        path = /samba/%U
        read only = No
        create mask = 0600
        directory mask = 0700
        root preexec = /usr/local/bin/samba_create_home %U+%D+%g

[PdfPrinter]
        comment         path = /tmp
        browsable = Yes
        printable = Yes
        print command = /usr/local/bin/samba_create_pdf %U %s

[print$]
        comment = Printer Driver Download Area
        path = /samba/drivers
        browseable = no
        guest ok = no
        read only = no
        write list = @ntadmin, linback

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> But now, users want me to configure samba so when they access
> the printer through windows explorer, they do not have to
> install printer driver, they are automagically downloaded from
> samba server. I've seen in the doc it is possible for a real
> printer, so I've tried to do the same for my virtual printer.
> I've located files required, installed them, defined
> association between  my virtual printer and its drivers, you
> know... I've just followed the doc. And everything seemed ok.
> But when I try to connect the the virtual printer, windows
> still asks me for printer drivers =(
Have you tried browsing to the printers and faxes share on the printer
server, selecting the printer, right clicking, and setting the driver
that way?

> > But now, users want me to configure samba so when they access
> > the printer through windows explorer, they do not have to
> > install printer driver, they are automagically downloaded from
> > samba server. I've seen in the doc it is possible for a real
> > printer, so I've tried to do the same for my virtual printer.
> > I've located files required, installed them, defined
> > association between  my virtual printer and its drivers, you
> > know... I've just followed the doc. And everything seemed ok.
> > But when I try to connect the the virtual printer, windows
> > still asks me for printer drivers =(
> 
> Have you tried browsing to the printers and faxes share on
the printer
> server, selecting the printer, right clicking, and setting
the driver
> that way?
> 
> 
Hello =)

I just redo it to be sure. Neither "Connect..." nor
"Properties" work =(

If I choose "Properties", a box appears with message "Printer
properties cannot be displayed. Operation could not be completed".

If I choose "Connect...", windows says "The server on which
the 'PdfPrinter' printer resides does not have the correct
printer driver installed. If you want to install the driver on
your local computer, click OK.". It does not download driver
from samba server =(

I wonder if the problem could occure 'cause the printer is a
virtual printer?

By the way, checking one more time samba doc, I can "see"
driver from windows (right-click on background of folder
Printers, Server Properties, Drivers) _BUT_ I cannot "see"
printer properties doing a right-click on it as said above. So
, from doc's point of view (Chapter 18. Classical Printing
Support/Check Samba for Driver Recognition), I pass the second
and third test, but not the first one.

Thanks for your help =)

I keep searching...

See U =)

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> > If I choose "Connect...", windows says "The server on
which
> > the 'PdfPrinter' printer resides does not have the correct
> > printer driver installed. If you want to install the driver 
> > on your local computer, click OK.". It does not download
> > driver from samba server =(
> 
> If you click Ok, then cancel, then go the Advanced tab,
> select the driver from the "Driver" select, and click 
> Apply... does the setting not stick?  (If you exit
> properties, right click on the printer again,
> and choose properties).
Sorry, I cannot access the "Advanced Tab". If I choose
"Connect" after a right-click on the printer in the
"Printers"
folder on samba server, then click "Ok", it starts "Add
Printer Wizard". From here, if I choose "Cancel", I go back to
"Printers" folder and nothing more. If I choose "Have
Disk...", it does not work too 'cause I do not have "*.inf"
file on my [print$] share.
Right-click on the virtual printer on more time and choose
"Properties" or "Connect..." open again the same windows =(

I've thought about one thing last night. Is the user ID
important when copying/installing driver from Windows to samba
[print$] share? I explain. I do not have Admin password, so
I've copied drivers from windows using a share as a "normal"
samba user, do  the "adddriver" and other stuff as this user.
I only got Admin password for the "setdriver" stuff (you
understand, I cannot ask admin for his password every 5
minutes =/ ). Is it important to be admin all driver
installation long or samba does not care?

One more thing. Do you thing the problem could come from
windows (win2k, sp4)? I do not have my own windows box to do
my test, so I ask users if I can use their boxes. From two
different boxes, it seems windows behavior is not the same.
Could the problem come from my "main" windows box?
> 
> > I wonder if the problem could occure 'cause the printer is
> > a virtual printer?
> 
> No, Samba doesn't care.  We have the exact same setup here.
> 
You mean that you have setup a pdf printer with driver
auto-download?

Thanks a lot taking time to help me =)

See U =)

cedric.

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