samba - Mar 2002 - WindowsXP Home and Samba 2.2.3a connection problems

OK, so I looked through all the archives and still can't find a solution.
My server is running RedHat 7.2 with all the latest patches, Samba is also 
latest 2.2.3a with domain masters set as "yes" and passwords NOT set
as
encrypt, because when I do turn it on, none of the Win98 boxes can log on 
(even when I tried to create non-blank password account). All Win98 boxes 
login flawlesly, since all of them use blank passwords/no passwords (for 
now), but now I got 1 XP Home edition box and I am really not willing to go 
and change things on lots of boxes just for this computer.
Here is what I tried:
I did apply the "signandseal" patch for XP that comes with Samba. I
tried
to log-in. Nothing...
I tried to turn on the encrypted passwrods on samba and import the 
user/password data with smbpasswd program. No luck, even if I enter the 
right username and password, it keeps on poping back-up asking for 
username/password info.
Any ideas?
Thanx

--On Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:25 AM -0600 Apolinaras 'Apollo'
Sinkevicius
<apollo@carmelentertainment.com> wrote:
> My server is running RedHat 7.2 with all the latest patches, Samba is
> also latest 2.2.3a with domain masters set as "yes" and passwords
NOT set
> as encrypt, because when I do turn it on, none of the Win98 boxes can log
> on (even when I tried to create non-blank password account). All Win98
> boxes login flawlesly, since all of them use blank passwords/no passwords
> (for now), but now I got 1 XP Home edition box and I am really not
> willing to go and change things on lots of boxes just for this computer.
Are you trying log into the Samba box as a domain, and run a logon batch 
file, or are you just mapping drives? That?s kind of an important 
distinction...

Perhaps your Win98 boxes need the regsitry changed to allow ENcrypted 
passwords.

XP Home edition CANNOT log into a domain (I think), but it *can* map the 
drives from the server... just click the box to reconnect them at reboot. 
You will be unable to ?log into? the server, and you lose the power of the 
logon batch file, but your user *will* be able to acces server resources.
> Here is what I tried:
> I did apply the "signandseal" patch for XP that comes with Samba.
I tried
> to log-in. Nothing... I tried to turn on the encrypted passwrods on samba
> and import the user/password data with smbpasswd program. No luck, even
> if I enter the right username and password, it keeps on poping back-up
> asking for username/password info. Any ideas?
How did you ?import? the user password data?  Previous mentions of tools to 
do this always indicated that the users are then disabled in smbpasswd, and 
you have to manually go in and change their passwords (because the Unix & 
NT LanMan password hasing algorithms are different, the import cannot bring 
in the password).

*WHY* use UNencrypted passwords anyway?  What could possibly be the 
benefit?  Of course, using no password/blank password makes me wonder why 
the 98 boxes would be unable to access it after changing to encrypted 
passwords.

- john

>My server is running RedHat 7.2 with all the latest patches, Samba is
>>also latest 2.2.3a with domain masters set as "yes" and
passwords NOT set
>>as encrypt, because when I do turn it on, none of the Win98 boxes can
log
>>on (even when I tried to create non-blank password account). All Win98
>>boxes login flawlesly, since all of them use blank passwords/no
passwords
>>(for now), but now I got 1 XP Home edition box and I am really not
>>willing to go and change things on lots of boxes just for this computer.
>
>Are you trying log into the Samba box as a domain, and run a logon batch 
>file, or are you just mapping drives? That?s kind of an important 
>distinction...
You are right. I am just trying to MAP the drives.
>Perhaps your Win98 boxes need the regsitry changed to allow ENcrypted 
>passwords.
Can it be done without them using encrypted passwords?

>XP Home edition CANNOT log into a domain (I think), but it *can* map the 
>drives from the server... just click the box to reconnect them at reboot. 
>You will be unable to ?log into? the server, and you lose the power of the 
>logon batch file, but your user *will* be able to acces server resources.
All I need is mapped drives. I can't get too elaborate here, since IT is 
only a very small part of my job and office is small too so no extra people 
for this work can be afforded.
>>Here is what I tried:
>>I did apply the "signandseal" patch for XP that comes with
Samba. I tried
>>to log-in. Nothing... I tried to turn on the encrypted passwrods on
samba
>>and import the user/password data with smbpasswd program. No luck, even
>>if I enter the right username and password, it keeps on poping back-up
>>asking for username/password info. Any ideas?
>
>How did you ?import? the user password data?  Previous mentions of tools 
>to do this always indicated that the users are then disabled in smbpasswd, 
>and you have to manually go in and change their passwords (because the 
>Unix & NT LanMan password hasing algorithms are different, the import 
>cannot bring in the password).
I just took RH7.2 passwords and imported them into smbpasswd the way manual 
tells you to for encryption of passwords. I only did it to try to have 
Win98 box work at the same time as XP does. I have turned off encrypted 
passes since.

>*WHY* use UNencrypted passwords anyway?  What could possibly be the 
>benefit?  Of course, using no password/blank password makes me wonder why 
>the 98 boxes would be unable to access it after changing to encrypted 
>passwords.
Why? I just want to leave my Win98 boxes at status quo, the way they were 
set up before, I realy don't have time to redo 10 boxes.

Thanx John. Hope I can find a solution. If I can't, bye bye WinXP.

Apollo

> OK, so I looked through all the archives and still can't find a
solution.
> My server is running RedHat 7.2 with all the latest patches, Samba is also 
> latest 2.2.3a with domain masters set as "yes" and passwords NOT
set as
> encrypt, because when I do turn it on, none of the Win98 boxes can log on 
> (even when I tried to create non-blank password account). All Win98 boxes 
> login flawlesly, since all of them use blank passwords/no passwords (for 
> now), but now I got 1 XP Home edition box and I am really not willing to go
> and change things on lots of boxes just for this computer.
> Here is what I tried:
> I did apply the "signandseal" patch for XP that comes with Samba.
I tried
> to log-in. Nothing...
> I tried to turn on the encrypted passwrods on samba and import the 
> user/password data with smbpasswd program. No luck, even if I enter the 
> right username and password, it keeps on poping back-up asking for 
> username/password info.
> Any ideas?
Du you have used the Registry Key on XP to allwo it to send plain 
text passwords over the wire? 

Christian

> Thanx 
> 
> 
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Yes. I think it is called "signandseal" registry tweak.


At 07:24 PM 3/5/2002 +0100, you wrote:
> > OK, so I looked through all the archives and still can't find a
solution.
> > My server is running RedHat 7.2 with all the latest patches, Samba is
also
> > latest 2.2.3a with domain masters set as "yes" and passwords
NOT set as
> > encrypt, because when I do turn it on, none of the Win98 boxes can log
on
> > (even when I tried to create non-blank password account). All Win98
boxes
> > login flawlesly, since all of them use blank passwords/no passwords
(for
> > now), but now I got 1 XP Home edition box and I am really not willing 
> to go
> > and change things on lots of boxes just for this computer.
> > Here is what I tried:
> > I did apply the "signandseal" patch for XP that comes with
Samba. I tried
> > to log-in. Nothing...
> > I tried to turn on the encrypted passwrods on samba and import the
> > user/password data with smbpasswd program. No luck, even if I enter
the
> > right username and password, it keeps on poping back-up asking for
> > username/password info.
> > Any ideas?
>
>Du you have used the Registry Key on XP to allwo it to send plain
>text passwords over the wire?
>
>Christian
>
>
> > Thanx
> >
> >
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> > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> >
>
>
>                _(_)_                          wWWWw   _
>    @@@@       (_)@(_)   vVVVv     _     @@@@  (___) _(_)_
>   @@()@@ wWWWw  (_)\    (___)   _(_)_  @@()@@   Y  (_)@(_)
>    @@@@  (___)     `|/    Y    (_)@(_)  @@@@   \|/   (_)\
>     /      Y       \|    \|/    /(_)    \|      |/      |
>  \ |     \ |/       | / \ | /  \|/       |/    \|      \|/
>jgs|//   \\|///  \\\|//\\\|/// \|///  \\\|//  \\|//  \\\|//
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^