rspec users - Feb 2009 - [Rspec] How do you nest before(:all) or after(:all) blocks?

Hi all,

I''m new to Rspec but loving it so far and looking to use it as a
replacement for a Test::Unit framework I have which drives a web app
via Watir. So far, things have worked very well with Rspec but I can''t
get my head around how before/after(:all) blocks would work in nested
groups, or even if what I am doing is possible.

What I want to do is something like this:

describe "This is a set of tests: " do
	before(:all) do
		puts "this should only appear once"
	end

	describe "Test 1" do
		puts "test 1"
	end

	describe "Test 2" do
		puts "test 2"
	end
end

Expecting the before(:all) block to run only once and see something
like:

- this should only appear once
- test 1
- test 2

but what I am getting is:

- this should only appear once
- test 1
- this should only appear once
- test 2

So my question is, how can you add before/after(:all) blocks that run
once and only once for for all examples, if all the examples are
nested in one main describe block? Is that something that''s even
possible? I''d appreciate any pointers anyone may have. Thanks!

Regards,

John

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:07 AM, John Kolokotronis <johnjkle at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I''m new to Rspec but loving it so far and looking to use it as a
> replacement for a Test::Unit framework I have which drives a web app
> via Watir. So far, things have worked very well with Rspec but I
can''t
> get my head around how before/after(:all) blocks would work in nested
> groups, or even if what I am doing is possible.
>
> What I want to do is something like this:
>
> describe "This is a set of tests: " do
>        before(:all) do
>                puts "this should only appear once"
>        end
>
>        describe "Test 1" do
>                puts "test 1"
>        end
>
>        describe "Test 2" do
>                puts "test 2"
>        end
> end
>
> Expecting the before(:all) block to run only once and see something
> like:
>
> - this should only appear once
> - test 1
> - test 2
>
> but what I am getting is:
>
> - this should only appear once
> - test 1
> - this should only appear once
> - test 2
>
> So my question is, how can you add before/after(:all) blocks that run
> once and only once for for all examples, if all the examples are
> nested in one main describe block? Is that something that''s even
> possible? I''d appreciate any pointers anyone may have. Thanks!
Right now it''s not possible. There''s an open ticket on this:

http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/5645/tickets/632
>
> Regards,
>
> John
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>

Thanks for the reply David - much appreciated. At least now I know
that it can''t be done, rather
than pursuing it further for now. I''ll just have to live without that
functionality for now and add
it later on if a fix is made available.

Regards,

John

On Feb 4, 2:03?pm, David Chelimsky <dchelim... at gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:07 AM, John Kolokotronis <johnj... at
gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
>
> > I''m new to Rspec but loving it so far and looking to use it
as a
> > replacement for a Test::Unit framework I have which drives a web app
> > via Watir. So far, things have worked very well with Rspec but I
can''t
> > get my head around how before/after(:all) blocks would work in nested
> > groups, or even if what I am doing is possible.
>
> > What I want to do is something like this:
>
> > describe "This is a set of tests: " do
> > ? ? ? ?before(:all) do
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?puts "this should only appear once"
> > ? ? ? ?end
>
> > ? ? ? ?describe "Test 1" do
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?puts "test 1"
> > ? ? ? ?end
>
> > ? ? ? ?describe "Test 2" do
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?puts "test 2"
> > ? ? ? ?end
> > end
>
> > Expecting the before(:all) block to run only once and see something
> > like:
>
> > - this should only appear once
> > - test 1
> > - test 2
>
> > but what I am getting is:
>
> > - this should only appear once
> > - test 1
> > - this should only appear once
> > - test 2
>
> > So my question is, how can you add before/after(:all) blocks that run
> > once and only once for for all examples, if all the examples are
> > nested in one main describe block? Is that something that''s
even
> > possible? I''d appreciate any pointers anyone may have.
Thanks!
>
> Right now it''s not possible. There''s an open ticket on
this:
>
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/5645/tickets/632
>
>
>
> > Regards,
>
> > John
> > _______________________________________________
> > rspec-users mailing list
> > rspec-us... at rubyforge.org
> >http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
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rubyforge.orghttp://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users

John Kolokotronis wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I''m new to Rspec but loving it so far and looking to use it as a
> replacement for a Test::Unit framework I have which drives a web app
> via Watir. So far, things have worked very well with Rspec but I
can''t
> get my head around how before/after(:all) blocks would work in nested
> groups, or even if what I am doing is possible.
>
> What I want to do is something like this:
>
> describe "This is a set of tests: " do
> 	before(:all) do
> 		puts "this should only appear once"
> 	end
>
> 	describe "Test 1" do
> 		puts "test 1"
> 	end
>
> 	describe "Test 2" do
> 		puts "test 2"
> 	end
> end
>
> Expecting the before(:all) block to run only once and see something
> like:
>
> - this should only appear once
> - test 1
> - test 2
>
> but what I am getting is:
>
> - this should only appear once
> - test 1
> - this should only appear once
> - test 2
>
> So my question is, how can you add before/after(:all) blocks that run
> once and only once for for all examples, if all the examples are
> nested in one main describe block? Is that something that''s even
> possible? I''d appreciate any pointers anyone may have. Thanks!
>
>   
Why do you want before(:all)?  Generally it''s use is disregarded, just 
as global variables are considered harmful, not because they can''t be 
used well, but because 99% of the times they aren''t.

Scott

> Why do you want before(:all)? ?Generally it''s use is disregarded,
just
> as global variables are considered harmful, not because they can''t
be
> used well, but because 99% of the times they aren''t.
Because I want to be able to create a single @browser object at the
beginning
of my tests and have it passed to all examples. Without nested
examples, that
works just fine - I can create my browser instance in the before(:all)
block and
avoid using a global variable. In nested examples, I don''t see a good
way to
do that - I could always set up the browser instance as a global (did
that in
the past with Test::Unit and many Watir users do so) but I''d like to
avoid this.

If I didn''t use a before(:all) block or a global variable, would there
be any way to
pass my browser object to all example groups?

Currently my tests look like this:

describe "A series of tests" do
  before(:all) do
    @browser = Watir::Browser.new
  end

  it "Test 1: it should go to www.google.com" do
    @browser.goto("www.google.com")
  end
end

Obviously, been able to use nested describe groups would make the
tests easier
to read for non-coders here and that''s why I wanted to use them...

Regards,

John

On 4 Feb 2009, at 17:55, John Kolokotronis wrote:
>> Why do you want before(:all)?  Generally it''s use is
disregarded,
>> just
>> as global variables are considered harmful, not because they
can''t be
>> used well, but because 99% of the times they aren''t.
>
> Because I want to be able to create a single @browser object at the
> beginning
> of my tests and have it passed to all examples. Without nested
> examples, that
Have you considered using Cucumber rather than RSpec as the driver to  
run these tests?

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com

> Have you considered using Cucumber rather than RSpec as the driver to ?
> run these tests?

TBH, I haven''t really looked at Cucumber much, as I''m just
getting
started with Rspec itself. My impression though was that Cucumber
replaced the story runner and the way my tests are structured just
seems better suited to Rspec, rather than written as user stories...