Rails - Jul 2013 - URL "id" not part of the params objects after post

Why is the URL "id" element not part of the params objects after
submitting a form via form_tag?

Steps:
1. Go to URL http://localhost:3000/users/delete?id=45
2. Press Submit button
3. Read id param in order to delete user, then redirect form

<p>Delete Confirmation</p>

<%= form_tag(''/users/delete'') do %>
    <%= submit_tag ''Click here to delete this user'' %>
<% end %>

def delete
    if request.post?
      if (!params[:id].nil?)
        @user=User.find(params[:id])
        @user.delete
        redirect_to(:controller=>''users'', :action =>
''list'')
      end

    end
end


When the form is posted, params[:id] does not exist, why?

Thanks

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Rodrigo Lueneberg wrote in post #1114532:
> <%= form_tag(''/users/delete'') do %>
>     <%= submit_tag ''Click here to delete this user''
%>
> <% end %>
>
> When the form is posted, params[:id] does not exist, why?
Because you''re using for_tag instead of form_for:

<%= form_for :user, :method => :delete do |f| %>

Note: The above is just an example. Normally you would not use a form at 
all to request that a given model be destroyed. Below is an proper 
example of deleting a given user:

<%= link_to ''Destroy'', user, method: :delete, data: {
confirm: ''Are you
sure?'' } %>

Besides that I don''t see how your form_tag would ever send anything 
about the current user. It''s not passing in the user, nor user id, at 
all. It''s just submitting to the /users/delete URL with no other 
information.

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Thanks Robert, You just gave some insight. You''re right I should use 
form_for, but I just want to point that the user id is indeed passed in 
the URL above. But I don''t understand why it is not  part of the 
"request" object querystring parameters? Any Framework should be able
to
capture both post an URL parameters after a form submit action. I guess 
I will just keep reading more about rails.

Rod

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Rodrigo Lueneberg wrote in post #1114538:
> Thanks Robert, You just gave some insight. You''re right I should
use
> form_for, but I just want to point that the user id is indeed passed in
> the URL above and I can reference a Model object even when not using a
> form_for. But I don''t understand why it is not  part of the
> "request" object querystring parameters? Any Framework should be
able to
> capture both POST an URL parameters after a form submit action. How
> about environmental parameters such as referrer, etc.? I just
doesn''t
> make sense to me. I guess I will just keep reading more about rails.
> <%= form_tag(''/users/delete'') do %>
>     <%= submit_tag ''Click here to delete this user''
%>
> <% end %>
The form_tag helper defaults to a POST request if method is not 
specified. Form fields will be pass in the request body not in the URL 
query string. I don''t see any indication that you''re passing
any form
data in your example above. It''s not part of the URL and there are no 
hidden fields that might contain any form data.

Example:
form_tag(''/posts'')
# => <form action="/posts" method="post">

Check your logs/development.log to see exactly what the params hash 
contains for your request.

As for what you call "environmental parameters" I assume you mean 
request headers. Request headers are available in the request object but 
are not mixed into the params hash. That hash is reserved for user 
submitted data (i.e. form fields and query parameters).

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Sorry, I just come from .net and I am used to Request.Querystring[] 
which is able to fetch any URL parameter on post. The Request object, in 
this case, takes care storing the URL parameter values. One other idea 
you just gave me is to create an input field which would obtain the 
value from the URL. I mean it would alter the form_tag helper to include 
the id and it would be available during post. But thanks, your feedback 
was very helpful and I am going to continue studying to better 
understand rails architecture.

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On Jul 5, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Rodrigo Lueneberg wrote:
> Sorry, I just come from .net and I am used to Request.Querystring[] 
> which is able to fetch any URL parameter on post. The Request object, in 
> this case, takes care storing the URL parameter values. One other idea 
> you just gave me is to create an input field which would obtain the 
> value from the URL. I mean it would alter the form_tag helper to include 
> the id and it would be available during post. But thanks, your feedback 
> was very helpful and I am going to continue studying to better 
> understand rails architecture.
When you read about the form_for helper versus the form_tag helper, you will see
that the item ID will be a part of the parameters when you receive the form
contents at your controller for the update method, without any additional items
being required.

Walter
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