Hi I am new to computer programming wanting to learn ROR. Few questions that I have 1.Is it necessary to learn java before I learn ROR 2.Which stable version of ruby,gems and rails that I need to install, I use ubuntu 10.04 thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Hey Rai, #1 - Learning ROR -- No you don''t need to learn java but you will need to learn Ruby (which is used on the Rails framework). #2 - Version info -- For version information & tutorials. Check this comprehensive guide http://guides.rubyonrails.org/ #3 - Also checkout railscasts.com, railstutorial.org & http://www.humblelittlerubybook.com/book/html/index.html The last in a link to an intro to ruby -- which you should really focus on I''m a fairly new to the ROR -- and these links were a helpful for me. Good Luck! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Rai M <mrai2976-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi > > > I am new to computer programming wanting to learn ROR. Few questions > that I have > > > 1.Is it necessary to learn java before I learn ROR > 2.Which stable version of ruby,gems and rails that I need to install, > I use ubuntu 10.04 > > > thanks in advance. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- Sincere Regards, Kisha Richardson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
You can start with the latest and greatest: Ruby 1.9.3 gem 1.8.15 Rails 3.2.2 There are ways to install a particular version of Rails, if you are learning from a book that is written for a particular version. From your question about Java I would guess that you are new to programming, so that would be a little advanced for now. Java and Ruby on Rails are unrelated. There is no need to learn Java to learn Ruby on Rails. Ruby on Rails is not a programming language, it is a web application framework. Ruby is a programming language. Ruby on Rails (RoR) is written in the Ruby Programming language. It may help to learn some Ruby before learning RoR. Learn To Program (2nd ed) is a good introduction to programming in Ruby: http://pragprog.com/book/ltp2/learn-to-program But you don''t have to pay to learn Ruby. Go to http://www.ruby-lang.org to find many resources. If you like cartoon foxes, Why''s poignant guide is also a good place to learn: http://mislav.uniqpath.com/poignant-guide/ . The best place to start with RoR is at the home page http://rubyonrails.org/ From there you will find links to much more like Rails screencasts: http://rubyonrails.org/screencasts If books are your things try AWDWR: http://pragprog.com/book/rails4/agile-web-development-with-rails or the on-line book, Ruby on Rails tutorial: http://ruby.railstutorial.org/ruby-on-rails-tutorial-book?version=3.2 Good luck and have fun! On Mar 13, 10:11 pm, Rai M <mrai2...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi > > I am new to computer programming wanting to learn ROR. Few questions > that I have > > 1.Is it necessary to learn java before I learn ROR > 2.Which stable version of ruby,gems and rails that I need to install, > I use ubuntu 10.04 > > thanks in advance.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
#2 has give u accessible solution 2012/3/15 seanlynch <sean.seanlynch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>> You can start with the latest and greatest: > Ruby 1.9.3 > gem 1.8.15 > Rails 3.2.2 > > There are ways to install a particular version of Rails, if you are > learning from a book that is written for a particular version. From > your question about Java I would guess that you are new to > programming, so that would be a little advanced for now. > > Java and Ruby on Rails are unrelated. There is no need to learn Java > to learn Ruby on Rails. > > Ruby on Rails is not a programming language, it is a web application > framework. Ruby is a programming language. Ruby on Rails (RoR) is > written in the Ruby Programming language. It may help to learn some > Ruby before learning RoR. > > Learn To Program (2nd ed) is a good introduction to programming in > Ruby: > http://pragprog.com/book/ltp2/learn-to-program > > But you don''t have to pay to learn Ruby. > Go to http://www.ruby-lang.org to find many resources. > If you like cartoon foxes, Why''s poignant guide is also a good place > to learn: http://mislav.uniqpath.com/poignant-guide/ . > > The best place to start with RoR is at the home page > http://rubyonrails.org/ > > From there you will find links to much more like Rails screencasts: > http://rubyonrails.org/screencasts > > If books are your things try AWDWR: > http://pragprog.com/book/rails4/agile-web-development-with-rails > > or the on-line book, Ruby on Rails tutorial: > http://ruby.railstutorial.org/ruby-on-rails-tutorial-book?version=3.2 > > Good luck and have fun! > > > On Mar 13, 10:11 pm, Rai M <mrai2...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Hi > > > > I am new to computer programming wanting to learn ROR. Few questions > > that I have > > > > 1.Is it necessary to learn java before I learn ROR > > 2.Which stable version of ruby,gems and rails that I need to install, > > I use ubuntu 10.04 > > > > thanks in advance. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- *愿爱与喜悦心与你同在! 石岩敬上 大连东软信息学院 计算机系软件工程应用方向 Dalian NEUSOFT Institute of Information 中国-大连市软件园路8号 邮编：116023 **Mail:hlcfan.yan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org* <hlcfan.yan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> *Phone:15242613529* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
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<p>Rai,</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>People have given you good advice. Let me give me give you a
little more advice.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>The documentation is maintained by volunteers. The
documentation in some of the Rails tutorials are mostly right but are sometimes
either wrong or ambiguous. I know because I fixed a bunch of these
documentation errors as I went through the tutorials step by step about 3 months
ago.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Thus, if something doesn''t make sense or doesn''t work
... it can often be that the docs set you astray. Stop and ask a
question here before you pull your hair out; or in the alternate, just shrug
your shoulders and plow on as most people have done.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>If you want to become proficient, you might want to look for a road map
to learning the technologies you will be using to create web sites.
You might want to check out </p>
<p><a class=rvts13
href="http://jimmy-li.net/blog/?p=62">Learning to Code: The Roadmap
I Wish I Had Been Given</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Finally, you will probably want to learn JavaScript; not Java.
The two languages are totally different.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Good luck and welcome to RoR.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Ralph</p>
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<p>Wednesday, March 14, 2012, 6:09:09 PM, you wrote:</p>
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<p><span class=rvts6>Hey Rai,</span></p>
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<p><span class=rvts6>#1 - Learning ROR -- No you don''t need
to learn java but you will need to learn Ruby (which is used on the Rails
framework).</span></p>
<p><span class=rvts6>#2 - Version info -- For version information
& tutorials. Check this comprehensive guide </span><a
class=rvts7
href="http://guides.rubyonrails.org/">http://guides.rubyonrails.org/</a></p>
<p><span class=rvts6>#3 - Also checkout </span><a
class=rvts7
href="http://railscasts.com">railscasts.com</a><span
class=rvts6>, </span><a class=rvts7
href="http://railstutorial.org">railstutorial.org</a><span
class=rvts6> & </span><a class=rvts7
href="http://www.humblelittlerubybook.com/book/html/index.html">http://www.humblelittlerubybook.com/book/html/index.html</a><span
class=rvts6> </span></p>
<p><span class=rvts6>The last in a link to an intro to ruby -- which
you should really focus on </span></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><span class=rvts6>I''m a fairly new to the ROR -- and
these links were a helpful for me.</span></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><span class=rvts6>Good Luck! </span></p>
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<p><span class=rvts6>On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Rai M
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<p><span class=rvts6>Hi</span></p>
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<p><span class=rvts6>I am new to computer programming wanting to
learn ROR. Few questions</span></p>
<p><span class=rvts6>that I have</span></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><span class=rvts6>1.Is it necessary to learn java before I learn
ROR</span></p>
<p><span class=rvts6>2.Which stable version of ruby,gems and rails
that I need to install,</span></p>
<p><span class=rvts6>I use ubuntu 10.04</span></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><span class=rvts6>thanks in advance.</span></p>
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thanks a lot guys i have installed ruby 1.9.3p125 (2012-02-16) [i386-mingw32] rails 3.2.2 I feel at home with you all guiding me thanks Rai On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs-bVGy8FV858MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> ** > > Rai, > > People have given you good advice. Let me give me give you a little more > advice. > > > The documentation is maintained by volunteers. The documentation in some > of the Rails tutorials are mostly right but are sometimes either wrong or > ambiguous. I know because I fixed a bunch of these documentation errors as > I went through the tutorials step by step about 3 months ago. > > > Thus, if something doesn''t make sense or doesn''t work ... it can often be > that the docs set you astray. Stop and ask a question here before you pull > your hair out; or in the alternate, just shrug your shoulders and plow on > as most people have done. > > > If you want to become proficient, you might want to look for a road map to > learning the technologies you will be using to create web sites. You might > want to check out > > Learning to Code: The Roadmap I Wish I Had Been Given<http://jimmy-li.net/blog/?p=62> > > > Finally, you will probably want to learn JavaScript; not Java. The two > languages are totally different. > > > Good luck and welcome to RoR. > > > Ralph > > > > Wednesday, March 14, 2012, 6:09:09 PM, you wrote: > > > > Hey Rai, > > > #1 - Learning ROR -- No you don''t need to learn java but you will need to > learn Ruby (which is used on the Rails framework). > > #2 - Version info -- For version information & tutorials. Check this > comprehensive guide http://guides.rubyonrails.org/ > > #3 - Also checkout railscasts.com, railstutorial.org & > http://www.humblelittlerubybook.com/book/html/index.html > > The last in a link to an intro to ruby -- which you should really focus on > > > I''m a fairly new to the ROR -- and these links were a helpful for me. > > > Good Luck! > > > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Rai M <mrai2976-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I am new to computer programming wanting to learn ROR. Few questions > > that I have > > > > 1.Is it necessary to learn java before I learn ROR > > 2.Which stable version of ruby,gems and rails that I need to install, > > I use ubuntu 10.04 > > > > thanks in advance. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > Sincere Regards, > > Kisha Richardson > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Ralph mailto:ralphs-bVGy8FV858MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<ralphs-bVGy8FV858MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I completely agree with everything. ROR is Ruby so that''s basic. Most Ruby programmers come from Java(?) so perhaps the common practice to show how something done in Ruby can be done in Java too. Java is not necessary for ROR, just Ruby :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Mar 15, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Yaw Boakye elGran wrote:> Most Ruby programmers come from Java(?)Not my experience, but certainly Ruby is a peer language to Java, so if you can hack one, you can possibly learn the other. I know some developers who learned Java in college, and are using Ruby nearly full-time. They occasionally drop into Java for something that they can''t get done another way, or because they need to use JRuby for something. Walter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.