What is the relationship between ruby on rails and html/css? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Gaba Luschi <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> What is the relationship between ruby on rails and html/css? > >Married and living happily. Please be more specific as to what you are looking for. The above question is so broad in scope that you might as well have asked "What is the relationship between the fingers and the hand?" Thanks, B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
OK, you put HTML and CSS code into a file and name it something.html , save it and open in a browser and you see a beautiful web page. HTML and CSS has no power to connect to databases, respond to Ajax calls, create, modify and delete files. To do so we use a thing called server side scripting language. The most popular server side scripts are Perl (not used much today), PHP (most popular scripting as of today) and Ruby (fast gaining popularity). Ruby on Rails is a web development framework (written with Ruby) that helps you to create HTML and CSS web pages. Though you mostly use Ruby to program in Ruby on Rails, The final output is HTML, CSS and Javascript. On Mar 1, 6:41 am, Gaba Luschi <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> What is the relationship between ruby on rails and html/css? > > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
radhames brito
2011-Mar-02 02:04 UTC
Re: Re: elationship between ruby on rails and html/css?
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Karthikeyan <mindaslab-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> OK, you put HTML and CSS code into a file and name it something.html , > save it and open in a browser and you see a beautiful web page. > >Continuing with what Karthikeyan said , you will see a static beautiful page, like a MS word document it will always look the same as long as you dont edit it. If this was how gmail worked there would be a html document for each user and each action the user can do ( hundreds of millions), but that is not the case. Programed on the server side is not a fixed html document but instead there is the logic to build one on the fly when someone comes in to check their email, so , you only create one server side document and this creates a html document dynamically( on the fly) for each user and for each action that a user can do, that logic if programed if many different languages but ruby makes it easy and the rails framework is the one makes this easiest, and most productive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 1 March 2011 01:41, Gaba Luschi <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> What is the relationship between ruby on rails and html/css?Is that a homework question? Colin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 1 March 2011 01:41, Gaba Luschi <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > What is the relationship between ruby on rails and html/css? > > Is that a homework question? >I know people that only used CMS all their life and they "develop" sites and sell projects constantly some of them have ask me this same question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Thanks Karthikeyan and Radhames! Alas, I wish it were a homework question - that would imply I''m still in school to some extent (and school was awesome!!!) ;) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Walter Lee Davis
2011-Mar-02 16:27 UTC
Re: Re: elationship between ruby on rails and html/css?
On Mar 1, 2011, at 9:04 PM, radhames brito wrote:> > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Karthikeyan <mindaslab-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > wrote: > OK, you put HTML and CSS code into a file and name it something.html , > save it and open in a browser and you see a beautiful web page. > > > Continuing with what Karthikeyan said , you will see a static > beautiful page, like a MS word document it will always look the same > as long as you dont edit it. If this was how gmail worked there > would be a html document for each user and each action the user can > do ( hundreds of millions), but that is not the case. Programed on > the server side is not a fixed html document but instead there is > the logic to build one on the fly when someone comes in to check > their email, so , you only create one server side document and this > creates a html document dynamically( on the fly) for each user and > for each action that a user can do, that logic if programed if many > different languages but ruby makes it easy and the rails framework > is the one makes this easiest, and most productive.+1000 points for a very helpful and kind answer. Thanks for keeping the tone of this list high. Walter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Hi, to be honest being rude with beginners is unnecessary. Maybe he has no idea where to start - and a mailing list can be a right place. You can find all HTML standards here: http://www.w3schools.com If you don''t know where to start the best is try out everything yourself and you will find that part which impresses you. Rails is a framework which generates HTML. It communnicates with Database so it''s definitely not static like HTML itself. CSS if for giving some styling and Rails also generates some CSS and enables you to modify it as you wish. Later you can include great frameworks too and you can avoid boring repetition of same tasks (like HAML, SCSS, BluePrint, Compass). Rails can be hard as starting point if you have no idea about HTML, CSS, JavaScript. You can pick up everything on the way but it can take much more time. Preferably you spend some time with these then you restart studying a little bit of Ruby and then continue with Rails. www.railstutoial.org This guy explains everything what''s better to know before starting, the first part will be very helpful for you. Best wishes and hope you''ll find your way! gezope On Mar 2, 5:27 pm, Walter Lee Davis <wa...-HQgmohHLjDZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Mar 1, 2011, at 9:04 PM, radhames brito wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Karthikeyan <mindas...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > wrote: > > OK, you put HTML and CSS code into a file and name it something.html , > > save it and open in a browser and you see a beautiful web page. > > > Continuing with what Karthikeyan said , you will see a static > > beautiful page, like a MS word document it will always look the same > > as long as you dont edit it. If this was how gmail worked there > > would be a html document for each user and each action the user can > > do ( hundreds of millions), but that is not the case. Programed on > > the server side is not a fixed html document but instead there is > > the logic to build one on the fly when someone comes in to check > > their email, so , you only create one server side document and this > > creates a html document dynamically( on the fly) for each user and > > for each action that a user can do, that logic if programed if many > > different languages but ruby makes it easy and the rails framework > > is the one makes this easiest, and most productive. > > +1000 points for a very helpful and kind answer. Thanks for keeping > the tone of this list high. > > Walter-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Hassan Schroeder
2011-Mar-03 21:40 UTC
Re: Re: elationship between ruby on rails and html/css?
> You can find all HTML standards here: http://www.w3schools.comActually, the *real* standards are at http://w3.org ... -- Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org twitter: @hassan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 3 March 2011 21:34, gezope <gezope-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi, to be honest being rude with beginners is unnecessary. Maybe he > has no idea where to start - and a mailing list can be a right place.I hope you are not suggesting that asking whether a question is homework is being rude. It is a perfectly valid question and many times questions like this are in fact homework. I hope the OP was not offended by my asking, certainly no offence was intended. I accept that you have not quoted me, so it should not be me that you are referring to, but none of the replies that you have quoted look rude either. Colin> > You can find all HTML standards here: http://www.w3schools.com > If you don''t know where to start the best is try out everything > yourself and you will find that part which impresses you. > > Rails is a framework which generates HTML. It communnicates with > Database so it''s definitely not static like HTML itself. CSS if for > giving some styling and Rails also generates some CSS and enables you > to modify it as you wish. Later you can include great frameworks too > and you can avoid boring repetition of same tasks (like HAML, SCSS, > BluePrint, Compass). > > Rails can be hard as starting point if you have no idea about HTML, > CSS, JavaScript. You can pick up everything on the way but it can take > much more time. Preferably you spend some time with these then you > restart studying a little bit of Ruby and then continue with Rails. > www.railstutoial.org This guy explains everything what''s better to > know before starting, the first part will be very helpful for you. > > Best wishes and hope you''ll find your way! > gezope > > > On Mar 2, 5:27 pm, Walter Lee Davis <wa...-HQgmohHLjDZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> On Mar 1, 2011, at 9:04 PM, radhames brito wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Karthikeyan <mindas...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> >> > wrote: >> > OK, you put HTML and CSS code into a file and name it something.html , >> > save it and open in a browser and you see a beautiful web page. >> >> > Continuing with what Karthikeyan said , you will see a static >> > beautiful page, like a MS word document it will always look the same >> > as long as you dont edit it. If this was how gmail worked there >> > would be a html document for each user and each action the user can >> > do ( hundreds of millions), but that is not the case. Programed on >> > the server side is not a fixed html document but instead there is >> > the logic to build one on the fly when someone comes in to check >> > their email, so , you only create one server side document and this >> > creates a html document dynamically( on the fly) for each user and >> > for each action that a user can do, that logic if programed if many >> > different languages but ruby makes it easy and the rails framework >> > is the one makes this easiest, and most productive. >> >> +1000 points for a very helpful and kind answer. Thanks for keeping >> the tone of this list high. >> >> Walter > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Having just graduated from college as a Programmer/Analyst, I can certainly say there is no shortage of lazy students. One "peer" would not spend more than five minutes on any problem before attempting to either steal the answer from a classmate or get a tutor to do his own work. Sorry to "steal" the thread, but had to throw in my $0.02. And I second using railstutorial.org, I''m presently working through the text myself and I like it. On Mar 3, 3:43 pm, Colin Law <clan...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 3 March 2011 21:34, gezope <gez...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Hi, to be honest being rude with beginners is unnecessary. Maybe he > > has no idea where to start - and a mailing list can be a right place. > > I hope you are not suggesting that asking whether a question is > homework is being rude. It is a perfectly valid question and many > times questions like this are in fact homework. I hope the OP was not > offended by my asking, certainly no offence was intended. > > I accept that you have not quoted me, so it should not be me that you > are referring to, but none of the replies that you have quoted look > rude either. > > Colin > > > > > You can find all HTML standards here:http://www.w3schools.com > > If you don''t know where to start the best is try out everything > > yourself and you will find that part which impresses you. > > > Rails is a framework which generates HTML. It communnicates with > > Database so it''s definitely not static like HTML itself. CSS if for > > giving some styling and Rails also generates some CSS and enables you > > to modify it as you wish. Later you can include great frameworks too > > and you can avoid boring repetition of same tasks (like HAML, SCSS, > > BluePrint, Compass). > > > Rails can be hard as starting point if you have no idea about HTML, > > CSS, JavaScript. You can pick up everything on the way but it can take > > much more time. Preferably you spend some time with these then you > > restart studying a little bit of Ruby and then continue with Rails. > >www.railstutoial.orgThis guy explains everything what''s better to > > know before starting, the first part will be very helpful for you. > > > Best wishes and hope you''ll find your way! > > gezope > > > On Mar 2, 5:27 pm, Walter Lee Davis <wa...-HQgmohHLjDZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> On Mar 1, 2011, at 9:04 PM, radhames brito wrote: > > >> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Karthikeyan <mindas...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > >> > wrote: > >> > OK, you put HTML and CSS code into a file and name it something.html , > >> > save it and open in a browser and you see a beautiful web page. > > >> > Continuing with what Karthikeyan said , you will see a static > >> > beautiful page, like a MS word document it will always look the same > >> > as long as you dont edit it. If this was how gmail worked there > >> > would be a html document for each user and each action the user can > >> > do ( hundreds of millions), but that is not the case. Programed on > >> > the server side is not a fixed html document but instead there is > >> > the logic to build one on the fly when someone comes in to check > >> > their email, so , you only create one server side document and this > >> > creates a html document dynamically( on the fly) for each user and > >> > for each action that a user can do, that logic if programed if many > >> > different languages but ruby makes it easy and the rails framework > >> > is the one makes this easiest, and most productive. > > >> +1000 points for a very helpful and kind answer. Thanks for keeping > >> the tone of this list high. > > >> Walter > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
don''t worry - I''m not offended at all. I realize I''m a total beginner and I''m ok with that. I''m currently working through a book and have already managed to create a hideous but functional page! Thanks for the helpful responses re: tutorials, and explaining the relationship btwn Ruby/Rails and HTML/CSS. I just spent the last week learning html/css, some basic ruby and now rails. I''m definitely still far far behind but at least understand the concepts better, so I appreciate all the help so far! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.