Pointless question I know as an experienced programmer can work with any hardware but I wanted some opinions on the new macbook air 13". My current PC which is a 1.2ghz dual core with 4gb of ram is on it''s last legs. I''ve been running ubuntu and while the machine hasn''t been lightning quick it gets the job done. So I was thinking of getting the new MBA with 1.86ghz and 4GB of ram and was wondering whether anyone had any experience with it, I just need to kick round rails and push my projects up to heroku. The only heavy thing I have to deal with is some large databases around 40mb. Does the SSD help? Right now I can''t stretch to a MBP 15" and I need to replace this week so any advice would be appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Ollie wrote:> Pointless question I know as an experienced programmer can work with > any hardware but I wanted some opinions on the new macbook air 13". > > My current PC which is a 1.2ghz dual core with 4gb of ram is on it''s > last legs.Can''t feel sorry for you. I''m using a 5 year old MacBookPro maxed out at 2gb RAM.> I''ve been running ubuntu and while the machine hasn''t been > lightning quick it gets the job done. So I was thinking of getting the > new MBA with 1.86ghz and 4GB of ram and was wondering whether anyone > had any experience with it, I just need to kick round rails and push > my projects up to heroku. The only heavy thing I have to deal with is > some large databases around 40mb.Sorry, but 40mb is absolutely not a large database.> Does the SSD help?While I don''t have one, there are four developers I work with who have SSD and it make a huge difference.> Right now I can''t > stretch to a MBP 15" and I need to replace this week so any advice > would be appreciated.Get the best machine you can afford (or maybe even a little better than that). If you get an Apple, get the ProCare for it and keep the machine for at least 3 years. (Like I said, mine is from 2006.) -Rob Rob Biedenharn Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org http://AgileConsultingLLC.com/ rab-/VpnD74mH8+00s0LW7PaslaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org http://GaslightSoftware.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:04:08 AM UTC+1, Ollie wrote:> > Pointless question I know as an experienced programmer can work with > any hardware but I wanted some opinions on the new macbook air 13". >I switched to the Macbook Air 13", 1.86Ghz, 4GB, 128 SSD three months ago from a two year old 13" Macbook 2.0Ghz, 4GB, normal HD. I really enjoy the higher screen resolution and its much brighter too. The Air with SSD is lightning fast compared to my old Macbook. The Macbook Air is my primary (and only) computer, I use it for work, private and rails development. And finally, it is small and lightweight, I carry it along the whole day. The only drawback: still no UMTS option available - Apple wake up, mobile access is not limited to iPhone and iPad... Markus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
You don''t have to buy a Mac unless you are deadly addicted to jumping icons and stuff like that;) I had brand new MacBook Pro for 6 months and replaced it with "bottom shelf" Dell Vostro based on similar hardware level. Now with Ubuntu on board I can work smoothly with MacOS equivalent set of developer''s tools and about half less hardware resources being used. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Not a pointless question at all. Came up at a local UG in NYC last week. One dev is using a 13" air as their primary dev machine. I''m a little concerned by the limit of 4Gb RAM, but they are reporting really good experienced with the fast disk I/O making up for the limited RAM. Personally I use a MBP 15" with 8Gb RAM, but in addition to Ruby and Rails I do Groovy and Grails (and Scala and some Clojure) so I usually have IntelliJ and/or Eclipse open so the extra RAM is useful. If you''re using textmate (or emacs or vi) and Rails, any processor intensive test suites might be a little slower than with a faster processor, but with gems like autotest and spork that is less of an issue. I''d say "go for it". But understand there are some limitations. You''re going to want to get the external DVD for loading software, and if it''s anything like my first generation Air, you''re gonna be shocked by how few ports you have. You have to pay an Apple tax just to get a connector to be able to plug into ethernet, for example. Still, great portability. I''m still on the fence about getting one as a conference laptop. Best Wishes, Peter On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Ollie wrote:> Pointless question I know as an experienced programmer can work with > any hardware but I wanted some opinions on the new macbook air 13". > > My current PC which is a 1.2ghz dual core with 4gb of ram is on it''s > last legs. I''ve been running ubuntu and while the machine hasn''t been > lightning quick it gets the job done. So I was thinking of getting the > new MBA with 1.86ghz and 4GB of ram and was wondering whether anyone > had any experience with it, I just need to kick round rails and push > my projects up to heroku. The only heavy thing I have to deal with is > some large databases around 40mb. Does the SSD help? Right now I can''t > stretch to a MBP 15" and I need to replace this week so any advice > would be appreciated. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Ollie wrote:> The only heavy thing I have to deal with is > some large databases around 40mb. Does the SSD help?OhMyGoodnessYesItDoes! Walter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I did not keep it as I decided I could get another year or so out of my 13" MacBook, but a few months ago I bought the 11" MacBook Air (2gb version.... the 4 was not available as I bought it the first day of release), and had it for a week. Loaded all my dev environment and it was as fast or faster than my current machine -- I thought the SSD did make boot up and coming back from sleep a lot faster. I was concerned with the power of the computer but in the store I opened just about every app the thing had in it at the same time and it did not miss a beat when switching between them. The only thing I realized is that with the 11" my posture got worse as I kept inclining to see the screen :) But for me unless I have a change of heart, I plan on getting the 13" MBA. On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Ollie <ollie.judge-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Pointless question I know as an experienced programmer can work with > any hardware but I wanted some opinions on the new macbook air 13". > > My current PC which is a 1.2ghz dual core with 4gb of ram is on it''s > last legs. I''ve been running ubuntu and while the machine hasn''t been > lightning quick it gets the job done. So I was thinking of getting the > new MBA with 1.86ghz and 4GB of ram and was wondering whether anyone > had any experience with it, I just need to kick round rails and push > my projects up to heroku. The only heavy thing I have to deal with is > some large databases around 40mb. Does the SSD help? Right now I can''t > stretch to a MBP 15" and I need to replace this week so any advice > would be appreciated. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:22 AM, David Kahn wrote:> I did not keep it as I decided I could get another year or so out of > my 13" MacBook, but a few months ago I bought the 11" MacBook Air > (2gb version.... the 4 was not available as I bought it the first > day of release), and had it for a week. Loaded all my dev > environment and it was as fast or faster than my current machine -- > I thought the SSD did make boot up and coming back from sleep a lot > faster. I was concerned with the power of the computer but in the > store I opened just about every app the thing had in it at the same > time and it did not miss a beat when switching between them. The > only thing I realized is that with the 11" my posture got worse as I > kept inclining to see the screen :) But for me unless I have a > change of heart, I plan on getting the 13" MBA.The big difference for me is in TextMate, in a project with lots and lots of files in it (like a Rails app with the gems unpacked). When switching back and forth between Terminal and TextMate, there''s almost no pause to re-index all the files. I have the new MacBook and an 8- core Mac Pro with a standard spinning disk, and the extra cores are only really pushing me ahead when I''m doing something unrelated to Rails, like Photoshop. The SSD is so amazingly faster at switching contexts, which is what it seems I do all day long, that I find myself sneaking off to the MacBook away from my giant two-screen Mac Pro. Walter> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Ollie <ollie.judge-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > Pointless question I know as an experienced programmer can work with > any hardware but I wanted some opinions on the new macbook air 13". > > My current PC which is a 1.2ghz dual core with 4gb of ram is on it''s > last legs. I''ve been running ubuntu and while the machine hasn''t been > lightning quick it gets the job done. So I was thinking of getting the > new MBA with 1.86ghz and 4GB of ram and was wondering whether anyone > had any experience with it, I just need to kick round rails and push > my projects up to heroku. The only heavy thing I have to deal with is > some large databases around 40mb. Does the SSD help? Right now I can''t > stretch to a MBP 15" and I need to replace this week so any advice > would be appreciated. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > .-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Thanks guys. Looks like I should be fine with one, I move around quite a bit so the drop in weight will help. Not to fussed about lack of ports. Probably going to go with the 1.86ghz with 4gb RAM and get an external hard drive for storage. On Jan 25, 2:30 pm, Walter Lee Davis <wa...-HQgmohHLjDZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:22 AM, David Kahn wrote: > > > I did not keep it as I decided I could get another year or so out of > > my 13" MacBook, but a few months ago I bought the 11" MacBook Air > > (2gb version.... the 4 was not available as I bought it the first > > day of release), and had it for a week. Loaded all my dev > > environment and it was as fast or faster than my current machine -- > > I thought the SSD did make boot up and coming back from sleep a lot > > faster. I was concerned with the power of the computer but in the > > store I opened just about every app the thing had in it at the same > > time and it did not miss a beat when switching between them. The > > only thing I realized is that with the 11" my posture got worse as I > > kept inclining to see the screen :) But for me unless I have a > > change of heart, I plan on getting the 13" MBA. > > The big difference for me is in TextMate, in a project with lots and > lots of files in it (like a Rails app with the gems unpacked). When > switching back and forth between Terminal and TextMate, there''s almost > no pause to re-index all the files. I have the new MacBook and an 8- > core Mac Pro with a standard spinning disk, and the extra cores are > only really pushing me ahead when I''m doing something unrelated to > Rails, like Photoshop. The SSD is so amazingly faster at switching > contexts, which is what it seems I do all day long, that I find myself > sneaking off to the MacBook away from my giant two-screen Mac Pro. > > Walter > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Ollie <ollie.ju...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Pointless question I know as an experienced programmer can work with > > any hardware but I wanted some opinions on the new macbook air 13". > > > My current PC which is a 1.2ghz dual core with 4gb of ram is on it''s > > last legs. I''ve been running ubuntu and while the machine hasn''t been > > lightning quick it gets the job done. So I was thinking of getting the > > new MBA with 1.86ghz and 4GB of ram and was wondering whether anyone > > had any experience with it, I just need to kick round rails and push > > my projects up to heroku. The only heavy thing I have to deal with is > > some large databases around 40mb. Does the SSD help? Right now I can''t > > stretch to a MBP 15" and I need to replace this week so any advice > > would be appreciated. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > > . > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > > .-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Walter Davis wrote in post #977401:> On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:22 AM, David Kahn wrote: > >> kept inclining to see the screen :) But for me unless I have a >> change of heart, I plan on getting the 13" MBA. > > The big difference for me is in TextMate, in a project with lots and > lots of files in it (like a Rails app with the gems unpacked). When > switching back and forth between Terminal and TextMate, there''s almost > no pause to re-index all the files. I have the new MacBook and an 8- > core Mac Pro with a standard spinning disk, and the extra cores are > only really pushing me ahead when I''m doing something unrelated to > Rails, like Photoshop. The SSD is so amazingly faster at switching > contexts, which is what it seems I do all day long, that I find myself > sneaking off to the MacBook away from my giant two-screen Mac Pro.That''s very interesting to know. I have a 3-year-old MacBook Pro which I love, but it''s probably time to get a new laptop soon. I wonder if an Air would be suitable. Maybe not, though; I plan to use it for audio and live looping at least as much as software development (I do both music and programming professionally...yes, I''m busy). I wonder if the Air can keep up with the real-time sound processing...> > WalterBest, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:> Maybe not, though; I plan to use it for audio > and live looping at least as much as software development (I do both > music and programming professionally...yes, I''m busy). I wonder if > the > Air can keep up with the real-time sound processing...What application(s) do you use for audio? I''ve got Login Express 9 here, and that runs great on the Macbook -- but for best results you''re supposed to record to a separate drive and you need an audio in port, and that''s really overloading USB in my opinion. Walter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
> My current PC which is a 1.2ghz dual core with 4gb of ram is on it''s > last legs. I''ve been running ubuntu and while the machine hasn''t been > lightning quick it gets the job done. So I was thinking of getting the > new MBA with 1.86ghz and 4GB of ram and was wondering whether anyoneI don''t have an air. I do have a 13" mac book pro 2010 with 8gb of ram. I had 4gb. My only issue with your plan is the ram. I used to swap when loading up parallels/windows for ie testing. That sucked. I don''t anymore :) For what it''s worth, my typical open apps.... Mail, Safari, iTunes, Adium, Colloquy, Billings, iTerm (w/ lots of vim sessions), mysql, postgresql, rails console, rails server. All was fine until I''d fire up Parallels. At which point I''d use just a bit over 4gb, but enough I''d notice it when switching apps. If you won''t be running Parallels (or some other virtual app) 4gb should be fine -- and probably still is as long as you shut down some of the other ram hogs while using it, or crank down the vm''s ram to 512mb or something... -philip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I''d be careful with anything processor intensive. You don''t get anything for free. If you need the weight/price, I''d check it out. Otherwise . . . I am thinking of one as a travel/backup machine though . . . and they seem quite capable for Rails dev in Textmate. Best Wishes, Peter On Jan 25, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:> Walter Davis wrote in post #977401: >> On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:22 AM, David Kahn wrote: >> >>> kept inclining to see the screen :) But for me unless I have a >>> change of heart, I plan on getting the 13" MBA. >> >> The big difference for me is in TextMate, in a project with lots and >> lots of files in it (like a Rails app with the gems unpacked). When >> switching back and forth between Terminal and TextMate, there''s almost >> no pause to re-index all the files. I have the new MacBook and an 8- >> core Mac Pro with a standard spinning disk, and the extra cores are >> only really pushing me ahead when I''m doing something unrelated to >> Rails, like Photoshop. The SSD is so amazingly faster at switching >> contexts, which is what it seems I do all day long, that I find myself >> sneaking off to the MacBook away from my giant two-screen Mac Pro. > > That''s very interesting to know. I have a 3-year-old MacBook Pro which > I love, but it''s probably time to get a new laptop soon. I wonder if an > Air would be suitable. Maybe not, though; I plan to use it for audio > and live looping at least as much as software development (I do both > music and programming professionally...yes, I''m busy). I wonder if the > Air can keep up with the real-time sound processing... > >> >> Walter > > Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koser > http://www.marnen.org > marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Walter Davis wrote in post #977425:> On Jan 25, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote: > >> Maybe not, though; I plan to use it for audio >> and live looping at least as much as software development (I do both >> music and programming professionally...yes, I''m busy). I wonder if >> the >> Air can keep up with the real-time sound processing... > > What application(s) do you use for audio? I''ve got Login Express 9 > here, and that runs great on the Macbook -- but for best results > you''re supposed to record to a separate drive and you need an audio in > port, and that''s really overloading USB in my opinion.I use Ardour and GarageBand for recording, and SooperLooper and Moebius for looping. I don''t record to a separate drive, and I usually use the USB input rather than the audio input. However, I realize that we''re getting off topic.> > WalterBest, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I''m working with Rails for a while from 2.0 to 3.0. Also with Jruby and Grails. That fine with 2GB RAM but better with 4GB. My database is 3GB on PostgreSQL 8.4. 2.4Ghz Macbook Pro with TextMate I have a chance to test New Mac Air 13. I feel it faster response. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org>wrote:> Walter Davis wrote in post #977401: > > On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:22 AM, David Kahn wrote: > > > >> kept inclining to see the screen :) But for me unless I have a > >> change of heart, I plan on getting the 13" MBA. > > > > The big difference for me is in TextMate, in a project with lots and > > lots of files in it (like a Rails app with the gems unpacked). When > > switching back and forth between Terminal and TextMate, there''s almost > > no pause to re-index all the files. I have the new MacBook and an 8- > > core Mac Pro with a standard spinning disk, and the extra cores are > > only really pushing me ahead when I''m doing something unrelated to > > Rails, like Photoshop. The SSD is so amazingly faster at switching > > contexts, which is what it seems I do all day long, that I find myself > > sneaking off to the MacBook away from my giant two-screen Mac Pro. > > That''s very interesting to know. I have a 3-year-old MacBook Pro which > I love, but it''s probably time to get a new laptop soon. I wonder if an > Air would be suitable. Maybe not, though; I plan to use it for audio > and live looping at least as much as software development (I do both > music and programming professionally...yes, I''m busy). I wonder if the > Air can keep up with the real-time sound processing... >The thing too as far as I know is it is just usb, no firewire, which kind of limits audio/video.... anyone know for sure?> > > > > Walter > > Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koser > http://www.marnen.org > marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
No FireWire keeps you in the kiddie pool as far as audio interfaces go. All the big (cool, high quality) stuff is FireWire 400 or 800. Walter On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:53 PM, David Kahn wrote:> The thing too as far as I know is it is just usb, no firewire, which > kind of limits audio/video.... anyone know for sure?-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Walter Lee Davis <waltd-HQgmohHLjDZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>wrote:> No FireWire keeps you in the kiddie pool as far as audio interfaces go. All > the big (cool, high quality) stuff is FireWire 400 or 800. >So is FW 400/800 available on the MBA?> > Walter > > > On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:53 PM, David Kahn wrote: > > The thing too as far as I know is it is just usb, no firewire, which kind >> of limits audio/video.... anyone know for sure? >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
No firewire, just two USB ports. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:54 PM, David Kahn <dk-rfEMNHKVqOwNic7Bib+Ti1W1rNmOCjRP@public.gmane.org>wrote:> > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Walter Lee Davis <waltd-HQgmohHLjDZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>wrote: > >> No FireWire keeps you in the kiddie pool as far as audio interfaces go. >> All the big (cool, high quality) stuff is FireWire 400 or 800. >> > > So is FW 400/800 available on the MBA? > >> >> Walter >> >> >> On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:53 PM, David Kahn wrote: >> >> The thing too as far as I know is it is just usb, no firewire, which kind >>> of limits audio/video.... anyone know for sure? >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 2:54 PM, David Kahn wrote:> > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Walter Lee Davis > <waltd-HQgmohHLjDZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > No FireWire keeps you in the kiddie pool as far as audio interfaces > go. All the big (cool, high quality) stuff is FireWire 400 or 800. > > So is FW 400/800 available on the MBA?Nope, just one USB 2 port on each side. Walter> > Walter > > > On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:53 PM, David Kahn wrote: > > The thing too as far as I know is it is just usb, no firewire, which > kind of limits audio/video.... anyone know for sure? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > .-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.