Rails - Jan 2011 - Your template plugins/extensions for new project?

Hi all

Not started a Rails project from scratch for a while so I''m curious..
What are your "always in" plugins etc that you''d use for a
new Rails
project? 

Guess some people use templates for this task?

Not after a battle about why devise is better than restful_authentication or 
whatever, just keen to know what''s new. Been out the loop for a while.

With thanks

Matt

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My two cents:

haml
compass
nifty-generators
rails3-generators
yard (for documentation)
shoulda
factory_girl
devise / nifty_authentication (heavy / lightweight)
cancan (for roles/rights security)

Garrett

On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:12 PM, msp wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Not started a Rails project from scratch for a while so I''m
curious..
> What are your "always in" plugins etc that you''d use for
a new Rails project?
> 
> Guess some people use templates for this task?
> 
> Not after a battle about why devise is better than restful_authentication
or whatever, just keen to know what''s new. Been out the loop for a
while.
> 
> With thanks
> 
> Matt
> 
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msp wrote in post #972982:
> Hi all
>
> Not started a Rails project from scratch for a while so I''m
curious..
> What are your "always in" plugins etc that you''d use for
a new Rails
> project?
>
> Guess some people use templates for this task?
>
> Not after a battle about why devise is better than
> restful_authentication or
> whatever, just keen to know what''s new. Been out the loop for a
while.
>
> With thanks
>
> Matt
Haml (including Sass and maybe Compass), RSpec, Cucumber, Authlogic, 
Machinist, fast_gettext.  Pickle might get added to that list, and I''ll
probably try Devise and Cancan at some point.  But those are the 
essential set.

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>> Hi all
>> 
>> Not started a Rails project from scratch for a while so I''m
curious..
>> What are your "always in" plugins etc that you''d use
for a new Rails
>> project?
>> 
>> Guess some people use templates for this task?
>> 
>> Not after a battle about why devise is better than
>> restful_authentication or
>> whatever, just keen to know what''s new. Been out the loop for
a while.
>> 
>> With thanks
>> 
>> Matt
> 
> Haml (including Sass and maybe Compass), RSpec, Cucumber, Authlogic, 
> Machinist, fast_gettext.  Pickle might get added to that list, and
I''ll
> probably try Devise and Cancan at some point.  But those are the 
> essential set.

I''d add will_paginate, fastercsv, settingslogic, and nokogiri to that
list.  Seems no matter what I start, those always end up in there at some point.

Ruby Toolbox is a neat site that will show you whats available for doing various
things and how popular they are...

http://ruby-toolbox.com/

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devise and that''s it for me.  With Rails 3, engines are the new thing 
and everything I need to keep in an application, is now a part of my 
engine.

Devise is one of the best authentication systems I''ve found around. 
Very clean and modular.

For permissions/authorizations I developed my own system which is a 
bitfields permission system.  I used to use cancan, but it lacked what I 
needed and that was a way to assign authorization to any object within 
my application.

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Alpha Blue wrote in post #972991:
> devise and that''s it for me.  With Rails 3, engines are the new
thing
> and everything I need to keep in an application, is now a part of my
> engine.
>
> Devise is one of the best authentication systems I''ve found
around.
> Very clean and modular.
>
> For permissions/authorizations I developed my own system which is a
> bitfields permission system.  I used to use cancan, but it lacked what I
> needed and that was a way to assign authorization to any object within
> my application.
rails-authorization will do this, if I understand your use case 
correctly.  I''d avoid bitfields myself.

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Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote in post #972993:
> rails-authorization will do this, if I understand your use case
> correctly.  I''d avoid bitfields myself.
>
> Best,
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No, I looked into all of that.  With bitfields I can add authorization 
to "anything".  It''s very fast too and I''ve spent a
lot of times working
with it since my days as a developer with vbulletin products.

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Alpha Blue wrote in post #972994:
> Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote in post #972993:
>> rails-authorization will do this, if I understand your use case
>> correctly.  I''d avoid bitfields myself.
>>
>> Best,
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>> http://www.marnen.org
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>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>
> No, I looked into all of that.  With bitfields I can add authorization
> to "anything".
Of course you can.  You can do likewise with rails-auth.
>  It''s very fast too and I''ve spent a lot of times working
> with it since my days as a developer with vbulletin products.
Cynical translation: I''ve brought my PHP bad habits into Rails. :D

Maybe not.  I''ve rolled my own authorization on one project.  Honestly,
I''m not at all happy with it.  I hope to replace it with rails-auth or 
something.

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Thanks for the suggestions all.. gives me a few new angles to investigate.

The Ruby Toolbox site looks really interesting.
HAML/SASS I''m comfortable with but I wasn''t aware of the
Grid/Blueprint
stuff.

Best

Matt

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Hey I''m new to rails, so not sure what I''ll end up using, but
in
addition to the above I found this:

https://github.com/leshill/rails3-app

Seems to include most things people end up using and a nice way to
start a new rails project.

Also coffeescript + node.js + rails seems to be getting more and more
popular:
http://blog.nicolasblanco.fr/2010/12/13/you-should-already-use-coffeescript-in-your-rails-app

As for permissions I believe this is built on top of cancan to give
true role based permissions:
https://github.com/kristianmandrup/cream

Also, not strictly needed or directly relevant to rails, but these
look interesting:

Job Queue: https://github.com/cheerfulstoic/job_boss
MongoDB and Rails: http://mongoid.org/
Command line argument parsing: https://github.com/injekt/slop
Time Tracking: https://github.com/samg/timetrap

Happy coding :)


On Jan 7, 11:29 am, msp
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wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions all.. gives me a few new angles to investigate.
>
> The Ruby Toolbox site looks really interesting.
> HAML/SASS I''m comfortable with but I wasn''t aware of the
Grid/Blueprint
> stuff.
>
> Best
>
> Matt
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msp wrote in post #973069:
> Thanks for the suggestions all.. gives me a few new angles to
> investigate.
>
> The Ruby Toolbox site looks really interesting.
> HAML/SASS I''m comfortable with but I wasn''t aware of the
Grid/Blueprint
> stuff.
I don''t want to get into a war here, but the reason I don''t
use anything
like 960grid or Blueprint is that I believe that kind of fixed-width 
design is great for print, but completely inappropriate for the Web. 
I''m a big believer in liquid, degradable layouts -- IMHO if you need to
say "best viewed at 1024 x 768", you''ve already failed quite
badly.

That said, if you *do* need to use one of those frameworks, I highly 
recommend using Compass to get the extra abstraction that CSS alone 
can''t give you.  Otherwise you''ll wind up with lots of 
presentation-based classes, which is a poor way to structure your CSS.
>
> Best
>
> Matt
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For me ''annotate-models'' is a must...

On 7 ene, 00:12, msp
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wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Not started a Rails project from scratch for a while so I''m
curious..
> What are your "always in" plugins etc that you''d use for
a new Rails
> project?
>
> Guess some people use templates for this task?
>
> Not after a battle about why devise is better than restful_authentication
or
> whatever, just keen to know what''s new. Been out the loop for a
while.
>
> With thanks
>
> Matt
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