Hi,
HELP!
This seems too simple - I MUST be overlooking something...
I can create an rmagick image in my controller and display it fine.
When I create a second image and try to refresh via observe_form, it
shows garbled text...
BTW: RMagick is wonderful.
I am having a difficulty in what seems very elementary in Rails.
1. Create a form that user enters some params (color)
2. Observe the form and create an image (to_blob)
3. Display the image on the same form (near real time). As the user
enter params it builds their image.
What it displays in the div (dynamic image) is...
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-----------------------
Controller
# renders test image for static section - works GREAT.
def test_image
rec_color = "blue"
@color_img = Magick::Image.new(288, 36) {self.background_color
= rec_color }
@color_img.format = ''png''
@my_blob = @color_img.to_blob
send_data @my_blob, :filename => "mytabs2.png",
:disposition => ''inline'',
:type => "image/png"
end
def watch_text # callback for observe form
rec_color = params[:color]
@color_img = Magick::Image.new(288, 36) {self.background_color
= rec_color }
@color_img.format = ''png''
@my_blob = @color_img.to_blob
send_data @my_blob, :filename => "mytabs.png",
:disposition => ''inline'',
:type => "image/png"
end
--------------------
View
<% form_tag ({:controller => ''tabs'', :action =>
''create_tabs''} , {:id
=> "entries"}) do -%>
<%= select_tag (:color, options_with_colors(Tab.allowable_colors)) %>
# this part renders fine...
<b>static image </b> <br>
<%= image_tag url_for(:controller => "tabs", :action =>
"test_image", :id => 0) %>
<br>
=> (Blue box displays here)
# this part shows garbled text...
<b>dynamic image </b> <br>
<div id=''results''>
<% if @my_blob %>
<%= image_tag url_for(:controller => "tabs",
:action
=> "watch_text", :id => 0) %>
<% end %>
</div>
=> (garbled text here)
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<p>
<%= submit_tag ''Create'' %>
</p>
<% end %>
<%= observe_form ''entries'', :frequency => 2.0,
:update => :results,
:url => { :action => :watch_text }
%>
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On Sep 8, 8:15 pm, jc <chuf...-2p+qKb8Fl0QN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> <%= observe_form ''entries'', :frequency => 2.0, > :update => :results, > :url => { :action => :watch_text } > %>This observe_field looks dodgy - you''re telling it to replace the contents of the results div with the data that comes back from the server, but what comes back isn''t html, its raw png data, which the browser then attempts to display as html. Fred -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
rigth and also <%= image_tag url_for(:controller => "tabs", :action => "watch_text", :id => 0) %> the image tag should poing to a path in the server and the image should be serve by the webserver not rails. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Frederick Cheung <frederick.cheung-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On Sep 8, 8:15 pm, jc <chuf...-2p+qKb8Fl0QN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > <%= observe_form ''entries'', :frequency => 2.0, > > :update => :results, > > :url => { :action => :watch_text } > > %> > > This observe_field looks dodgy - you''re telling it to replace the > contents of the results div with the data that comes back from the > server, but what comes back isn''t html, its raw png data, which the > browser then attempts to display as html. > > Fred > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
the controller you return a partial with a link to the path of the image in the server On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:34 AM, radhames brito <rbritom-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> rigth and also > > > <%= image_tag url_for(:controller => "tabs", :action > => "watch_text", :id => 0) %> > > the image tag should poing to a path in the server and the image should be > serve by the webserver not rails. > > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Frederick Cheung < > frederick.cheung-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sep 8, 8:15 pm, jc <chuf...-2p+qKb8Fl0QN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> > <%= observe_form ''entries'', :frequency => 2.0, >> > :update => :results, >> > :url => { :action => :watch_text } >> > %> >> >> This observe_field looks dodgy - you''re telling it to replace the >> contents of the results div with the data that comes back from the >> server, but what comes back isn''t html, its raw png data, which the >> browser then attempts to display as html. >> >> Fred >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> >> >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:34 AM, radhames brito wrote:> right and also > > <%= image_tag url_for(:controller => "tabs", :action > => "watch_text", :id => 0) %> > > the image tag should point to a path in the server and the image > should be serve by the webserver not rails.As long as the URL will return an image, it does not need to be an asset served by the webserver. In an old project, I had a SparklineController that could return the sparkline for a given set of parameters and it worked quite well. However I do agree with Frederick''s comment about your observe_form. -Rob> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Frederick Cheung <frederick.cheung-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > > wrote: > > > On Sep 8, 8:15 pm, jc <chuf...-2p+qKb8Fl0QN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > <%= observe_form ''entries'', :frequency => 2.0, > > :update => :results, > > :url => { :action => :watch_text } > > %> > > This observe_field looks dodgy - you''re telling it to replace the > contents of the results div with the data that comes back from the > server, but what comes back isn''t html, its raw png data, which the > browser then attempts to display as html. > > Fred > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > .Rob Biedenharn Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org http://AgileConsultingLLC.com/ rab-/VpnD74mH8+00s0LW7PaslaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org http://GaslightSoftware.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Rob Biedenharn wrote:> On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:34 AM, radhames brito wrote: > >> right and also >> >> <%= image_tag url_for(:controller => "tabs", :action >> => "watch_text", :id => 0) %> >> >> the image tag should point to a path in the server and the image >> should be serve by the webserver not rails. > > As long as the URL will return an image, it does not need to be an > asset served by the webserver. In an old project, I had a > SparklineController that could return the sparkline for a given set of > parameters and it worked quite well. > > However I do agree with Frederick''s comment about your observe_form. > > -Rob > >> > %> >> Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- >> talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >> . >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en >> . > > Rob Biedenharn > Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org http://AgileConsultingLLC.com/ > rab-/VpnD74mH8+00s0LW7PaslaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org http://GaslightSoftware.com/What I "seem" to need to do (and this works) is to save the image as a resoruce on disk, then call it as follows. - delete previous image if it exists - create a new image - set (flash) the new image name - render the new webserver source (to new image name - timestamped) (I will add user_id, etc, later) I still cannot see how to possibly pass a blob through ajax response, so this is the my simple (NOT effective approach) versus memory storage. def watch_text rec_color = params[:color] @color_img = Magick::Image.new(288, 36) {self.background_color = rec_color } @color_img.format = ''png'' if flash[:prev_fname] File.open("public/images/#{flash[:prev_fname]}") File.delete("public/images/#{flash[:prev_fname]}") end @ts = Time.now.to_i.to_s f_name = "tab_" + @ts + ".png" @color_img.write("public/images/#{f_name}") flash[:prev_fname] = f_name @mb2 = "/images/#{f_name}" render(:text => ''<img alt="0" src="'' + @mb2 + ''" />'' ) end -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Sep 9, 5:54 pm, John Chufar <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I still cannot see how to possibly pass a blob through ajax response, so > this is the my simple (NOT effective approach) versus memory storage. >I think the root of the problem you are grappling with is that putting an image on a page requires two http requests: one that creates an image tag with the appropriate src attribute, and then the request from the browser when it tries to display that img tag. If that isn''t acceptable then there is a way of encoding the image data in the img tag your self, you basically stick <img src="data:image/bla,base64encodedimagedatahere" /> It''s not supported by all browsers though ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_URI_scheme ) Fred -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
can you explain why arent you using paperclip? i use it with imagemagick and can easily convert my file to almost any format with very easy. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Frederick Cheung <frederick.cheung-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On Sep 9, 5:54 pm, John Chufar <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > I still cannot see how to possibly pass a blob through ajax response, so > > this is the my simple (NOT effective approach) versus memory storage. > > > > I think the root of the problem you are grappling with is that putting > an image on a page requires two http requests: one that creates an > image tag with the appropriate src attribute, and then the request > from the browser when it tries to display that img tag. > If that isn''t acceptable then there is a way of encoding the image > data in the img tag your self, you basically stick > > <img src="data:image/bla,base64encodedimagedatahere" /> > > It''s not supported by all browsers though ( > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_URI_scheme > ) > > Fred > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Sep 9, 2010, at 3:12 PM, radhames brito wrote:> can you explain why arent you using paperclip? i use it with > imagemagick and can easily convert my file to almost any format with > very easy.Well, he''s not starting with a file, for one thing. -Rob> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Frederick Cheung <frederick.cheung-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > > wrote: > > > On Sep 9, 5:54 pm, John Chufar <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > I still cannot see how to possibly pass a blob through ajax > response, so > > this is the my simple (NOT effective approach) versus memory > storage. > > > > I think the root of the problem you are grappling with is that putting > an image on a page requires two http requests: one that creates an > image tag with the appropriate src attribute, and then the request > from the browser when it tries to display that img tag. > If that isn''t acceptable then there is a way of encoding the image > data in the img tag your self, you basically stick > > <img src="data:image/bla,base64encodedimagedatahere" /> > > It''s not supported by all browsers though ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_URI_scheme > ) > > Fred > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > .Rob Biedenharn Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org http://AgileConsultingLLC.com/ rab-/VpnD74mH8+00s0LW7PaslaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org http://GaslightSoftware.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Lol On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Rob Biedenharn <Rob-GBZH0y1GwQfnZcttdmLDtcI/UQi/AW5J@public.gmane.org>wrote:> > On Sep 9, 2010, at 3:12 PM, radhames brito wrote: > > can you explain why arent you using paperclip? i use it with imagemagick > and can easily convert my file to almost any format with very easy. > > > Well, he''s not starting with a file, for one thing. > > -Rob > > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Frederick Cheung < > frederick.cheung-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sep 9, 5:54 pm, John Chufar <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> > >> > I still cannot see how to possibly pass a blob through ajax response, so >> > this is the my simple (NOT effective approach) versus memory storage. >> > >> >> I think the root of the problem you are grappling with is that putting >> an image on a page requires two http requests: one that creates an >> image tag with the appropriate src attribute, and then the request >> from the browser when it tries to display that img tag. >> If that isn''t acceptable then there is a way of encoding the image >> data in the img tag your self, you basically stick >> >> <img src="data:image/bla,base64encodedimagedatahere" /> >> >> It''s not supported by all browsers though ( >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_URI_scheme >> ) >> >> Fred >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > > Rob Biedenharn > Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org http://AgileConsultingLLC.com/ > rab-/VpnD74mH8+00s0LW7PaslaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org <Rob-/VpnD74mH8+00s0LW7PaslaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> > http://GaslightSoftware.com/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Frederick Cheung wrote:> On Sep 9, 5:54�pm, John Chufar <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> I still cannot see how to possibly pass a blob through ajax response, so >> this is the my simple (NOT effective approach) versus memory storage. >> > > I think the root of the problem you are grappling with is that putting > an image on a page requires two http requests: one that creates an > image tag with the appropriate src attribute, and then the request > from the browser when it tries to display that img tag. > If that isn''t acceptable then there is a way of encoding the image > data in the img tag your self, you basically stick > > <img src="data:image/bla,base64encodedimagedatahere" /> > > It''s not supported by all browsers though ( > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_URI_scheme > ) > > FredThat is great Fred. let me check to compatibility to see what browsers are supported. Would like to support FF/Chrome/Safari/IE at least (no offense intended if I left off your favorite browser) I will give this a shot... -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.