We are a startup in the US and want an application built in RoR. We area all business people and not IT people and we aren''t ready to bring software development in house. Anyone have good experiences with outsourced RoR development? Any suggestions of good RoR outsource companies we should contact? Any ones we should stay away from? Thanks! Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
You can take a try to outsource your project on www.taskcity.com. It is said that their outsourcing service is pretty good. 2009/12/29 Bill Barnes <billbarnes353-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>> We are a startup in the US and want an application built in RoR. We > area all business people and not IT people and we aren''t ready to > bring software development in house. > > Anyone have good experiences with outsourced RoR development? > > Any suggestions of good RoR outsource companies we should contact? > > Any ones we should stay away from? > > Thanks! > > Bill > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > >-- ------------------------------------------------ Sincerely, Lei Gao Your Global Outsourcing Platform -- www.taskcity.com Email: lei-E9lNQnBwqSvby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org Website: www.taskcity.com Phone: 1371-857-3581 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Bill Barnes <billbarnes353-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>wrote:> We are a startup in the US and want an application built in RoR. We > area all business people and not IT people and we aren''t ready to > bring software development in house. > > Anyone have good experiences with outsourced RoR development?You''ll probably find a lot of RoR development is outsourced, whether to local agencies or contractors, or internationally. You might want to try a directory like one of the following: http://www.railsdevelopment.com/ http://freelance.railsdevelopment.com/ http://www.workingwithrails.com/ To find firms or developers meeting your requirements. It would also be worth ensuring that even if you don''t have development experience internally you do do some basic training (whether with the developers you hire or others) so you have a good sense of how to manage the project, what to expect of the developers, etc. That''s particularly important if the developers are some distance away and so unable to do regular face-to-face demos. James. -- James Stewart - Web Developer http://www.ketlai.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Bill Barnes wrote:> We are a startup in the US and want an application built in RoR. We > area all business people and not IT people and we aren''t ready to > bring software development in house. >Then why have you chosen Rails already? Sure, it''s a fabulous set of technologies, but if none of you are technical folks, then you probably shouldn''t be making technical decisions of this sort. Find a developer you like, and let him choose (or at least have input into) the technology. Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
"Find a developer you like, and let him choose (or at least have input into) the technology." I disagree. Never let the developer dictate the technology. Choose whats right for the company in the short/medium and long term. What if the company/client gets duped into using some guy that only develops in Erlang? Yeah, ok, I dont know many developers who do, but i''ve come across similar situations before. Why do so many big coporates choose Microsoft technology? Answer: The availability of relatively cheap, fairly good, developers at a drop of a hat. Just my 2 cents.... On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org>wrote:> Bill Barnes wrote: > > We are a startup in the US and want an application built in RoR. We > > area all business people and not IT people and we aren''t ready to > > bring software development in house. > > > > Then why have you chosen Rails already? Sure, it''s a fabulous set of > technologies, but if none of you are technical folks, then you probably > shouldn''t be making technical decisions of this sort. Find a developer > you like, and let him choose (or at least have input into) the > technology. > > Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koser > http://www.marnen.org > marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Johan De Klerk wrote:> "Find a developer > you like, and let him choose (or at least have input into) the > technology." > > I disagree. > > Never let the developer dictate the technology. Choose whats right for > the > company in the short/medium and long term.Right -- with significant input from the developer. Business people shouldn''t be making tech decisions without technical input. The reverse is also true.> What if the company/client > gets > duped into using some guy that only develops in Erlang?If he''s the best guy for the job, and if Erlang is a good tool for the job, what''s wrong with that? Remember back in 2004 when these guys in Chicago began developing Web apps in a language no one had heard of outside Japan? ;) (FWIW, Facebook has some features written in Erlang.)> Yeah, ok, I dont > know many developers who do, but i''ve come across similar situations > before.What do you consider a similar situation?> > Why do so many big coporates choose Microsoft technology? Answer: The > availability of relatively cheap, fairly good, developers at a drop of a > hat.As I understand, MS developers are not cheap. Many of them are not that good either. :) I think in many cases, the choice of MS technologies is probably due to business people dictating technologies. (There''s also the fact that lots of people don''t know about anything non-MS.) Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> > Just my 2 cents.... > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser > <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org>wrote: > >> technology. >> >> > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Marnen, again, thanks for the input. On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org>wrote:> Johan De Klerk wrote: > > "Find a developer > > you like, and let him choose (or at least have input into) the > > technology." > > > > I disagree. > > > > Never let the developer dictate the technology. Choose whats right for > > the > > company in the short/medium and long term. > > Right -- with significant input from the developer. Business people > shouldn''t be making tech decisions without technical input. The reverse > is also true. >How can business people make any reasonable tech decisions if they dont have technical knowledge? The challenge facing most small/medium sized companies with no in house IT staff, (outsourcing all work to development houses with excellent sales teams) is the problem of choosing who to trust. Very few contractors (at least in this country) deliver products viable in the long term.> > > What if the company/client > > gets > > duped into using some guy that only develops in Erlang? > > If he''s the best guy for the job, and if Erlang is a good tool for the > job, what''s wrong with that? Remember back in 2004 when these guys in > Chicago began developing Web apps in a language no one had heard of > outside Japan? ;) > > Just saying, some developers are so set in their ways they don''t considerthe best tool for the job. They use the tool they know best.> (FWIW, Facebook has some features written in Erlang.) > > > Yeah, ok, I dont > > know many developers who do, but i''ve come across similar situations > > before. > > What do you consider a similar situation? > >Ever had the misfortune of inheriting a antique Perl or PHP or ASP system? Nuf said.> > > > Why do so many big coporates choose Microsoft technology? Answer: The > > availability of relatively cheap, fairly good, developers at a drop of a > > hat. > > As I understand, MS developers are not cheap. Many of them are not that > good either. :) I think in many cases, the choice of MS technologies is > probably due to business people dictating technologies. (There''s also > the fact that lots of people don''t know about anything non-MS.) > >MS developers are a dime a dozen. (at least here they are). Hell, I can get a Senior Dev C# job tmrw, even though I have not used MS technology in about 4 years. In fact, I got a call from an agent just the other day... maybe it''s just my location.> Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koser > http://www.marnen.org > marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org > > > > Just my 2 cents.... > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser > > <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org>wrote: > > > >> technology. > >> > >> > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Try this: http://www.kiranatama.com/ :-) On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Johan De Klerk <johandk996-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>wrote:> Marnen, again, thanks for the input. > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser < > lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> Johan De Klerk wrote: >> > "Find a developer >> > you like, and let him choose (or at least have input into) the >> > technology." >> > >> > I disagree. >> > >> > Never let the developer dictate the technology. Choose whats right for >> > the >> > company in the short/medium and long term. >> >> Right -- with significant input from the developer. Business people >> shouldn''t be making tech decisions without technical input. The reverse >> is also true. >> > > How can business people make any reasonable tech decisions if they dont > have technical knowledge? The challenge facing most small/medium sized > companies with no in house IT staff, (outsourcing all work to development > houses with excellent sales teams) > is the problem of choosing who to trust. Very few contractors (at least in > this country) deliver products viable in the long term. > >> >> > What if the company/client >> > gets >> > duped into using some guy that only develops in Erlang? >> >> If he''s the best guy for the job, and if Erlang is a good tool for the >> job, what''s wrong with that? Remember back in 2004 when these guys in >> Chicago began developing Web apps in a language no one had heard of >> outside Japan? ;) >> >> Just saying, some developers are so set in their ways they don''t consider > the best tool for the job. They use the tool they know best. > > >> (FWIW, Facebook has some features written in Erlang.) >> >> > Yeah, ok, I dont >> > know many developers who do, but i''ve come across similar situations >> > before. >> >> What do you consider a similar situation? >> >> > Ever had the misfortune of inheriting a antique Perl or PHP or ASP system? > Nuf said. > > >> > >> > Why do so many big coporates choose Microsoft technology? Answer: The >> > availability of relatively cheap, fairly good, developers at a drop of a >> > hat. >> >> As I understand, MS developers are not cheap. Many of them are not that >> good either. :) I think in many cases, the choice of MS technologies is >> probably due to business people dictating technologies. (There''s also >> the fact that lots of people don''t know about anything non-MS.) >> >> > MS developers are a dime a dozen. (at least here they are). Hell, I can get > a Senior Dev C# job tmrw, even though I have not used MS technology in about > 4 years. In fact, I got a call from an agent just the other day... maybe > it''s just my location. > > >> Best, >> -- >> Marnen Laibow-Koser >> http://www.marnen.org >> marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org >> > >> > Just my 2 cents.... >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser >> > <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org>wrote: >> > >> >> technology. >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> >> -- >> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- David Angga Prasetya Ruby on Rails developer @ http://kiranatama.com - a Ruby on Rails outsourcing company -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. 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On Dec 29, 1:39 pm, Johan De Klerk <johandk...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Why do so many big coporates choose Microsoft technology? >Management by magazine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I have certain answers for you. Let me know if you are interested in communicating at raghubetter-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org We can surely take ahead the discussion and make sure you are getting the right thing done from right people. On Dec 29, 11:14 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Bill Barnes wrote: > > We are a startup in the US and want an application built inRoR. We > > area all business people and not IT people and we aren''t ready to > > bring software development in house. > > Then why have you chosen Rails already? Sure, it''s a fabulous set of > technologies, but if none of you are technical folks, then you probably > shouldn''t be making technical decisions of this sort. Find a developer > you like, and let him choose (or at least have input into) the > technology. > > Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koserhttp://www.marnen.org > mar...-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Visit www.hamaramatrimony.com click astrology predictions link . Check the performance of our site built with ROR. contact support-woq52tXM7fnuOUuc7nI2fejAqQFK86Wj@public.gmane.org I will provide all the details . Thanks Dhana sekaran On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:23 PM, raghubetter <raghubetter-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I have certain answers for you. Let me know if you are interested in > communicating at raghubetter-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > We can surely take ahead the discussion and make sure you are getting > the right thing done from right people. > > On Dec 29, 11:14 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Bill Barnes wrote: > > > We are a startup in the US and want an application built inRoR. We > > > area all business people and not IT people and we aren''t ready to > > > bring software development in house. > > > > Then why have you chosen Rails already? Sure, it''s a fabulous set of > > technologies, but if none of you are technical folks, then you probably > > shouldn''t be making technical decisions of this sort. Find a developer > > you like, and let him choose (or at least have input into) the > > technology. > > > > Best, > > -- > > Marnen Laibow-Koserhttp://www.marnen.org > > mar...-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org > > -- > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.