Hi, I''m don''t want to start another post about what''s the best IDE. Am just considering getting a licence for Rubymine which is 99$ I think. But I don''t know whether it''s really better than Netbeans. My focus is on BDD with cucumber, Rspec and Shoulda. Can anyone tell me his/her experience concering test support in those two IDE''s (I''m really reducing the question to two IDE''s) BDD should work out of the box. It''s somehow 100$ against 0$. But if $100 make''s me by far productive than it''s worth it. Thanks and sorry if the IDE questions bother you Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I run all RSpec and Cucumber from the command line, so the IDE is irrelevant IMO. On Dec 10, 3:44 pm, Christoph Jasinski <christoph.jasin...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi, > > I''m don''t want to start another post about what''s the best IDE. Am just > considering getting a licence for Rubymine which is 99$ I think. But I don''t > know whether it''s really better than Netbeans. My focus is on BDD with > cucumber, Rspec and Shoulda. Can anyone tell me his/her experience concering > test support in those two IDE''s (I''m really reducing the question to two > IDE''s) > BDD should work out of the box. > > It''s somehow 100$ against 0$. But if $100 make''s me by far productive than > it''s worth it. > > Thanks and sorry if the IDE questions bother you > Chris-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
If you''re an IDE type there is no comparison, RubyMine is much better IMO. You don''t need a lot of IDE for Rails development, but a good editor with real code completion and intelligent templating huge. Neither of them provide a decent interface to running rake tasks and rails scripts - it ends up being more a PITA than the command line. 3rdRail got that one right, they have a command line in the IDE with command completion - it''s about $99 now too. From: rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org [mailto:rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Christoph Jasinski Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:45 PM To: rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Subject: [Rails] (annoying) question: Netbeans vs Rubymine Hi, I''m don''t want to start another post about what''s the best IDE. Am just considering getting a licence for Rubymine which is 99$ I think. But I don''t know whether it''s really better than Netbeans. My focus is on BDD with cucumber, Rspec and Shoulda. Can anyone tell me his/her experience concering test support in those two IDE''s (I''m really reducing the question to two IDE''s) BDD should work out of the box. It''s somehow 100$ against 0$. But if $100 make''s me by far productive than it''s worth it. Thanks and sorry if the IDE questions bother you Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Christoph Jasinski
2009-Dec-11 00:24 UTC
Re: Re: (annoying) question: Netbeans vs Rubymine
my question was about support issues like - code completion - good sugestion etc. in the context of those three frameworks. I run them also from command line but it might be nice to run them from the IDE. But the heart of the matter to me is really the completion and good suggestion about design etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Christoph Jasinski <christoph.jasinski-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> my question was about support issues like > - code completion > - good sugestion > etc. > in the context of those three frameworks. > > I run them also from command line but it might be nice to run them from the > IDE. But the heart of the matter to me is really the completion and good > suggestion about design etc. >Code completion is alright, but I don''t think you should rely on some IDE design suggestions... design depends on your requirements, or in the pattern you''re basing your application, but no IDE should be able tell you how to do it better than yourself. Code completion in Netbeans is just fine, I haven''t tried RubyMine, so I cannot speak for it. Hope it helps. Cheers. -- Leonardo Mateo. There''s no place like ~ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I have tried them all: RadRails, NetBeans, 3rdRail, and RubyMine and while they all do some things pretty well; I find almost all the IDE''s to be very clunky and more of a hassle to work with then a nice text editor and the command line. I am spoiled though because TextMate is clearly the best editor out there, but there are some decent ones on Linux and Windows too so I hear. I don''t know - I think since I am coming from the "uber ide world" of Visual Studio I just find it kind of refreshing to use the command line and a lightweight text editor. I feel like a programmer again -- I think that sometimes IDE''s abstract you too much from the development process. Just my $.02 peas, -Steve On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Leonardo Mateo <leonardomateo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>wrote:> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Christoph Jasinski > <christoph.jasinski-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > my question was about support issues like > > - code completion > > - good sugestion > > etc. > > in the context of those three frameworks. > > > > I run them also from command line but it might be nice to run them from > the > > IDE. But the heart of the matter to me is really the completion and good > > suggestion about design etc. > > > Code completion is alright, but I don''t think you should rely on some > IDE design suggestions... design depends on your requirements, or in > the pattern you''re basing your application, but no IDE should be able > tell you how to do it better than yourself. > > Code completion in Netbeans is just fine, I haven''t tried RubyMine, so > I cannot speak for it. > > Hope it helps. > > Cheers. > > -- > Leonardo Mateo. > There''s no place like ~ > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Hi Christoph, If you still have not made your mind: here are 2 quite good screencasts about BDD, RSpec and Cucumber in RubyMine http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/demos/rubymine_bdd_rspec.html http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/demos/rubymine_cucumber_testing.html They should speak for themselves. Hope it helps, -Eugene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.