Hi there, I bought the first Agile RoR book a couple years ago and went through about half of it. I now have a project where I would like to try our RoR again. But I don''t know if my book is now out of date. I assume Ruby has moved on since then, but not sure how much. Can I get by using that original book? Or do I need to get it updated. I have downloaded the free SitePoint book (waiting for the link) - would that do as a replacement? Thanks Tom --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Pixelmech wrote:> Hi there, > > I bought the first Agile RoR book a couple years ago and went through > about half of it. I now have a project where I would like to try our > RoR again. But I don''t know if my book is now out of date. I assume > Ruby has moved on since then, but not sure how much. > > Can I get by using that original book? Or do I need to get it updated. > I have downloaded the free SitePoint book (waiting for the link) - > would that do as a replacement? > > Thanks > > Tomi bought the sitepoint book, before it was free --- DOH! it is a good beginning book. just note that when you go to actual programming, and doing login validation, there is lots of old stuff, like salted. then there is sugar, and hobo, and lots of options. some good, and some ruff. just like linux distro''s. it is hard, for newbies, to keep up with the newer stuff or good stuff. and when modifying your config file for email stuff, be sure to make just ONE change, and test the server. some of it will stop the server from loading on windows (instant rails). when installing gems, i have had a lot of issues. you have to watch versions of software in ROR... a lot. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Thanks - it looks like instant rails is no longer being developed, I downloaded Bitnami Rubystack instead (have not installed it yet) which seems promising. I assume gems is then no longer needed... The SitePoint PDF is apparently damaged and undownloadable (seems many people are responding the same thing) so I can''t grab it unfortunately - did you like it? On Nov 28, 12:30 pm, Trent Black <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> just note that when you go to actual programming, and doing login > validation, there is lots of old stuff, like salted. then there is > sugar, and hobo, and lots of options. some good, and some ruff. just > like linux distro''s. it is hard, for newbies, to keep up with the newer > stuff or good stuff. > > and when modifying your config file for email stuff, be sure to make > just ONE change, and test the server. some of it will stop the server > from loading on windows (instant rails). > > when installing gems, i have had a lot of issues. you have to watch > versions of software in ROR... a lot. > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Pixelmech wrote:> Hi there, > > I bought the first Agile RoR book a couple years ago and went through > about half of it. I now have a project where I would like to try our > RoR again. But I don''t know if my book is now out of date. I assume > Ruby has moved on since then, but not sure how much. > > Can I get by using that original book? Or do I need to get it updated. > I have downloaded the free SitePoint book (waiting for the link) - > would that do as a replacement? > > Thanks > > Tom > > >if it is the version 1 that refers to Rails 1.1.x then you should get the next version since Rails 1.2 is quite different. If you''re thinking of going with the upcoming Rails 2.0 then the current version of that book is mostly relevant. Some things are (like view template naming) will be different - but it''s mostly correct. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Nov 28, 11:03 am, Andy Koch <andy.k...-sBIqA0PYact54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Pixelmech wrote: > > Hi there, > > > I bought the first Agile RoR book a couple years ago and went through > > about half of it. I now have a project where I would like to try our > > RoR again. But I don''t know if my book is now out of date. I assume > > Ruby has moved on since then, but not sure how much. > > > Can I get by using that original book? Or do I need to get it updated. > > I have downloaded the free SitePoint book (waiting for the link) - > > would that do as a replacement? > > > Thanks > > > Tom > > if it is the version 1 that refers to Rails 1.1.x then you should get > the next version since Rails 1.2 is quite different. > > If you''re thinking of going with the upcoming Rails 2.0 then the current > version of that book is mostly relevant. Some things are (like view > template naming) will be different - but it''s mostly correct.win32: Rubystack is supposed to be the path of least resistance (I haven''t tried it) http://www.bitnami.com/tutorials/from_instantrails_to_rubystack BTW, you probably want to figure out deployment on RH or ubuntu or something sooner rather than later, and ubuntu makes it pretty painless. Dozens (maybe 100s) of blogs on how to install on debian/ ubuntu (apt-get or source.) booklists: http://blog.mrneighborly.com/2007/10/ruby-and-rails-bibliography-of-sorts.html http://robsanheim.com/2006/03/23/ruby-and-ruby-on-rails-book-roundup/ the recent books are getting better and more specialized. e.g. the Apress rails projects one doesn''t cover testing because the previous apress books did. Check Amazon for ~60 listings --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Nov 28, 2:44 pm, gene tani <gene.t...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> BTW, you probably want to figure out deployment on RH or ubuntu or > something sooner rather than later, and ubuntu makes it pretty > painless. Dozens (maybe 100s) of blogs on how to install on debian/ > ubuntu (apt-get or source.)Not sure what RH is, but is there a reason why I can''t just continue using Windows XP for now? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Nov 28, 2007 3:33 PM, Pixelmech <pixelmech-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Not sure what RH is, but is there a reason why I can''t just continue > using Windows XP for now?It means RedHat. Develop on whatever, just keep up with the deprecation warnings or prepare to not go Rails 2.0 when it''s released. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Pixelmech wrote:> On Nov 28, 2:44 pm, gene tani <gene.t...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> BTW, you probably want to figure out deployment on RH or ubuntu or >> something sooner rather than later, and ubuntu makes it pretty >> painless. Dozens (maybe 100s) of blogs on how to install on debian/ >> ubuntu (apt-get or source.) > > Not sure what RH is, but is there a reason why I can''t just continue > using Windows XP for now? > > >one issue with developing on Win is that not all gems come in Win, and sometimes your configuration needs to change when going to Linux I write my code on an XP, but the code runs on a linux dev box - so I have two machines for developing. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Nov 28, 1:33 pm, Pixelmech <pixelm...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Nov 28, 2:44 pm, gene tani <gene.t...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > BTW, you probably want to figure out deployment on RH or ubuntu or > > something sooner rather than later, and ubuntu makes it pretty > > painless. Dozens (maybe 100s) of blogs on how to install on debian/ > > ubuntu (apt-get or source.) > > Not sure what RH is, but is there a reason why I can''t just continue > using Windows XP for now?Yah, sorry, that is Red Hat. I think most people deploy on a linux flavor like Debian, ubuntu or Red hat/Fedora. I''ve read about Solaris and FreeBSD deploys too. I did see somewhere a blog about developing using a Linux liveCD and saving your changes to a filesystem on a USB drive. But doing a dual- booting (with grub) install with the Ubuntu live CD on a Windows XP box is pretty straightforward, check it out. The only problem i''ve had is with getting dual monitors to work on a ATI card. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
hi,> Develop on whatever, just keep up with the deprecation warnings or > prepare to not go Rails 2.0 when it''s released. >and why exactly would that be? I''ve been using RC 2 for several weeks on my XP box without any problems. Out of curiosity, what''s the reason for saying you cannot use windows for development under Rails 2.0? Maybe you were thinking about Ruby 2.0? (i''d bet there will be a binary for windows when ruby 2 gets released sooner or later) regards, javier ramÃrez --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---