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Wagner Narde

2007-Oct-16 15:33 UTC

OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html

"Ruby on Rails
Work in a developer''s dreamland. Leopard is the perfect platform for
Ruby on Rails development, with Rails, Mongrel, and Capistrano built
in."

--Wagner


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John Tsombakos

2007-Oct-16 15:57 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

On 10/16/07, Wagner Narde <wnarde-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html
>
> "Ruby on Rails
> Work in a developer''s dreamland. Leopard is the perfect platform
for
> Ruby on Rails development, with Rails, Mongrel, and Capistrano built
> in."
>
> --Wagner
Nice. But I wonder what upgrading to Leopard will do to my
self-installed Ruby and Rails (using the Hivelogic instructions). I''ve
got the latest Ruby (1.8.6), Rails (1.2.5), and all my gems in
/usr/local/... Anyone got any idea what versions are installed in
Leopard? I''m thinking I''ll just continue using my own setup...

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Xavier Noria

2007-Oct-16 16:04 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

On Oct 16, 2007, at 5:57 PM, John Tsombakos wrote:
> Nice. But I wonder what upgrading to Leopard will do to my
> self-installed Ruby and Rails (using the Hivelogic instructions).
I''ve
> got the latest Ruby (1.8.6), Rails (1.2.5), and all my gems in
> /usr/local/... Anyone got any idea what versions are installed in
> Leopard? I''m thinking I''ll just continue using my own
setup...
It is a good indicator, I think most of us will use our own setup  
nonetheless. In general you''ll be fine as long as /usr/local/bin  
appears in PATH before /usr/bin.

-- fxn


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Frederick Cheung

2007-Oct-16 16:05 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

On 16 Oct 2007, at 16:57, John Tsombakos wrote:
>
> On 10/16/07, Wagner Narde
<wnarde-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html
>>
>> "Ruby on Rails
>> Work in a developer''s dreamland. Leopard is the perfect
platform for
>> Ruby on Rails development, with Rails, Mongrel, and Capistrano built
>> in."
>>
>> --Wagner
>
> Nice. But I wonder what upgrading to Leopard will do to my
> self-installed Ruby and Rails (using the Hivelogic instructions).
I''ve
> got the latest Ruby (1.8.6), Rails (1.2.5), and all my gems in
> /usr/local/... Anyone got any idea what versions are installed in
> Leopard? I''m thinking I''ll just continue using my own
setup...
>The current version of OS X has ruby in /usr/bin, I imagine Leopard  
will be the same.

Fred

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Rick DeNatale

2007-Oct-16 16:29 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

On 10/16/07, Xavier Noria <fxn-xlncskNFVEJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
> On Oct 16, 2007, at 5:57 PM, John Tsombakos wrote:
>
> > Nice. But I wonder what upgrading to Leopard will do to my
> > self-installed Ruby and Rails (using the Hivelogic instructions).
I''ve
> > got the latest Ruby (1.8.6), Rails (1.2.5), and all my gems in
> > /usr/local/... Anyone got any idea what versions are installed in
> > Leopard? I''m thinking I''ll just continue using my
own setup...
>
> It is a good indicator, I think most of us will use our own setup
> nonetheless. In general you''ll be fine as long as /usr/local/bin
Unless you installed with macports in which case the custom install is
in /opt/local/bin
> appears in PATH before /usr/bin.
>
> -- fxn
>
>
> >
>

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John Tsombakos

2007-Oct-16 17:16 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

On 10/16/07, Xavier Noria <fxn-xlncskNFVEJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
> On Oct 16, 2007, at 5:57 PM, John Tsombakos wrote:
>
> > Nice. But I wonder what upgrading to Leopard will do to my
> > self-installed Ruby and Rails (using the Hivelogic instructions).
I''ve
> > got the latest Ruby (1.8.6), Rails (1.2.5), and all my gems in
> > /usr/local/... Anyone got any idea what versions are installed in
> > Leopard? I''m thinking I''ll just continue using my
own setup...
>
> It is a good indicator, I think most of us will use our own setup
> nonetheless. In general you''ll be fine as long as /usr/local/bin
> appears in PATH before /usr/bin.
>
> -- fxn
Pretty much what I figured will happen.

Thanks.

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Michael Steinfeld

2007-Oct-16 17:53 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

Word to the wise..

I have yet to be able to get FreeImage compiled on leopard.. actually
I have compiled it with dreaded symbol not found errors, linking issue
.. etc

So all of you with apps that use image_science maybe delayed a bit
before you can get it working. The image_science gem will install, but
will die if you attempt to use it.

Does not seem that the FreeImage project is all that active. I have
tried contacting developers via the usual mailing lists and forums to
no avail.

I''m not sure how much I can say about it other than that until Leopard
is released and I don''t have to worry about the NDA even though this
is a FreeImage issue more so than leopard.

Any of the Image_science devs want to talk to me off list feel free.

Hopefully someone with better C++ skills than me will soon fix it.

On 10/16/07, John Tsombakos
<tsom.rails-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
> On 10/16/07, Xavier Noria
<fxn-xlncskNFVEJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 16, 2007, at 5:57 PM, John Tsombakos wrote:
> >
> > > Nice. But I wonder what upgrading to Leopard will do to my
> > > self-installed Ruby and Rails (using the Hivelogic instructions).
I''ve
> > > got the latest Ruby (1.8.6), Rails (1.2.5), and all my gems in
> > > /usr/local/... Anyone got any idea what versions are installed in
> > > Leopard? I''m thinking I''ll just continue using
my own setup...
> >
> > It is a good indicator, I think most of us will use our own setup
> > nonetheless. In general you''ll be fine as long as
/usr/local/bin
> > appears in PATH before /usr/bin.
> >
> > -- fxn
>
> Pretty much what I figured will happen.
>
> Thanks.
>
> >
>

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Conrad Taylor

2007-Oct-16 18:08 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

Hi Michael, if it''s anything concerning Leopard, then it falls under
the
NDA and you can only speak with Apple until the product is released.
I have learned this from reading the posts in the cocoa-dev mail list
where they have made this very clear to others that have posted similar
information.

-Conrad

On 10/16/07, Michael Steinfeld
<mikeisgreat-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
>
> Word to the wise..
>
> I have yet to be able to get FreeImage compiled on leopard.. actually
> I have compiled it with dreaded symbol not found errors, linking issue
> .. etc
>
> So all of you with apps that use image_science maybe delayed a bit
> before you can get it working. The image_science gem will install, but
> will die if you attempt to use it.
>
> Does not seem that the FreeImage project is all that active. I have
> tried contacting developers via the usual mailing lists and forums to
> no avail.
>
> I''m not sure how much I can say about it other than that until
Leopard
> is released and I don''t have to worry about the NDA even though
this
> is a FreeImage issue more so than leopard.
>
> Any of the Image_science devs want to talk to me off list feel free.
>
> Hopefully someone with better C++ skills than me will soon fix it.
>
> On 10/16/07, John Tsombakos
<tsom.rails-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/16/07, Xavier Noria
<fxn-xlncskNFVEJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Oct 16, 2007, at 5:57 PM, John Tsombakos wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nice. But I wonder what upgrading to Leopard will do to my
> > > > self-installed Ruby and Rails (using the Hivelogic
instructions).
> I''ve
> > > > got the latest Ruby (1.8.6), Rails (1.2.5), and all my gems
in
> > > > /usr/local/... Anyone got any idea what versions are
installed in
> > > > Leopard? I''m thinking I''ll just continue
using my own setup...
> > >
> > > It is a good indicator, I think most of us will use our own setup
> > > nonetheless. In general you''ll be fine as long as
/usr/local/bin
> > > appears in PATH before /usr/bin.
> > >
> > > -- fxn
> >
> > Pretty much what I figured will happen.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Michael Steinfeld
> Linux Admin/Developer
> AIM: mikesteinfeld
> GTALK: mikeisgreat-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
>
> >
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Damian Terentiev

2007-Oct-16 18:55 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

On Oct 16, 2550 BE, at 20:05, Frederick Cheung wrote:> The current version of OS X has ruby in /usr/bin, I imagine Leopard
> will be the same.
A clean OS X doesn''t have /usr/local/ and I believe this will remain  
in Leopard.
So ruby on rails installed in /usr/local/ should be safe.

Damian

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Marnen Laibow-Koser

2007-Oct-17 04:03 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

John Tsombakos wrote:
[...]> Nice. But I wonder what upgrading to Leopard will do to my
> self-installed Ruby and Rails (using the Hivelogic instructions). 
This is one reason I''m using Locomotive at the moment.  Self-contained 
and doesn''t really conflict with anything else as far as I can see.
> I''ve
> got the latest Ruby (1.8.6), Rails (1.2.5), and all my gems in
> /usr/local/... Anyone got any idea what versions are installed in
> Leopard? I''m thinking I''ll just continue using my own
setup...
I would think that it would be advantageous to at least *look* at what 
Leopard provides before you make this decision.

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Conrad Taylor

2007-Oct-17 04:30 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

Hi, I''m using Mac Ports and it allows me to easily update every part of
the
ruby/rails native installation.  Also, I have access to many other ports
outside of Rails.
Peace,

-Conrad

On 10/16/07, Marnen Laibow-Koser
<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
>
> John Tsombakos wrote:
> [...]
> > Nice. But I wonder what upgrading to Leopard will do to my
> > self-installed Ruby and Rails (using the Hivelogic instructions).
>
> This is one reason I''m using Locomotive at the moment. 
Self-contained
> and doesn''t really conflict with anything else as far as I can
see.
>
> > I''ve
> > got the latest Ruby (1.8.6), Rails (1.2.5), and all my gems in
> > /usr/local/... Anyone got any idea what versions are installed in
> > Leopard? I''m thinking I''ll just continue using my
own setup...
>
> I would think that it would be advantageous to at least *look* at what
> Leopard provides before you make this decision.
>
> Best,
> --
> Marnen Laibow-Koser
> marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
> >
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John Tsombakos

2007-Oct-17 13:42 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

On 10/16/07, John Tsombakos
<tsom.rails-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> Nice. But I wonder what upgrading to Leopard will do to my
> self-installed Ruby and Rails (using the Hivelogic instructions).
I''ve
> got the latest Ruby (1.8.6), Rails (1.2.5), and all my gems in
> /usr/local/... Anyone got any idea what versions are installed in
> Leopard? I''m thinking I''ll just continue using my own
setup...
>
Just an update - am at an Apple Tech update where they are publicly
showing Leopard - Ruby is 1.8.6 and Rails is 1.2.3.

Nice to see they''re fairly up to date.

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Greg Donald

2007-Oct-17 14:35 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:> This is one reason I''m using Locomotive at the moment. 
Self-contained
> and doesn''t really conflict with anything else as far as I can
see.
Your reasons are your own I guess but you can very easily manipulate the
PATH environment variable and install anything anywhere.

The Mac OS uses /usr and ports uses /opt/local.  Most open source stuff
has a default --prefix of /usr/local so it''s really just a matter of
putting /opt/local/bin ahead of /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ahead of
/opt/local/bin in the PATH.
> I would think that it would be advantageous to at least *look* at what
> Leopard provides before you make this decision.
The reality is it will likely be out of date when it''s released.  Since
you can''t update Xcode from any sort of automated mechanism I doubt the
Rails stuff will be much different.  Ports are a good way to keep up to
date but I prefer to install my main workflow stuff from source so I can
control the exact versions.


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Marnen Laibow-Koser

2007-Oct-17 15:02 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

Greg Donald wrote:> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:
>> This is one reason I''m using Locomotive at the moment. 
Self-contained
>> and doesn''t really conflict with anything else as far as I can
see.
> 
> Your reasons are your own I guess but you can very easily manipulate the
> PATH environment variable and install anything anywhere.
> 
> The Mac OS uses /usr and ports uses /opt/local.  Most open source stuff
> has a default --prefix of /usr/local so it''s really just a matter
of
> putting /opt/local/bin ahead of /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ahead of
> /opt/local/bin in the PATH.
I know all that.  But keeping it all in the Locomotive.app bundle is -- 
for my purposes in testing and development -- even simpler.
> 
>> I would think that it would be advantageous to at least *look* at what
>> Leopard provides before you make this decision.
> 
> The reality is it will likely be out of date when it''s released. 
Since
> you can''t update Xcode from any sort of automated mechanism 
I think, but am not positive, that it works with Software Update.
> I doubt the
> Rails stuff will be much different.  
Again, I assume that Apple releases will come through Software Update.
> Ports are a good way to keep up to
> date but I prefer to install my main workflow stuff from source so I can
> control the exact versions.
I''d be more inclined to do this for a production (or beta) server (and 
why use Mac OS for that anyway?).  But for my development computer, I 
just want a simple installation so that I can focus on implementing the 
application I''m trying to write, not the Ruby interpreter behind it. 
That''s why I''m using Locomotive right now.
> 
> 
> --
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> Cyberfusion Consulting
> http://cyberfusionconsulting.com/
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elle

2007-Oct-17 20:50 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

> Just an update - am at an Apple Tech update where they are publicly
> showing Leopard - Ruby is 1.8.6 and Rails is 1.2.3.
>

But you would still need to install Xcode though? or not?


Elle


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Greg Donald

2007-Oct-17 20:56 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, elle wrote:> But you would still need to install Xcode though? or not?
I don''t see how it can be avoided, especially if you plan to use any
gems that require compilation.


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John Tsombakos

2007-Oct-18 01:36 UTC

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Re: OSX Leopard: Rails/Mongrel/Capistrano built in

On 10/17/07, Greg Donald
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> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, elle wrote:
> > But you would still need to install Xcode though? or not?
>
> I don''t see how it can be avoided, especially if you plan to use
any
> gems that require compilation.
I don''t think the machine I used had the dev tools installed, but
didn''t think to look. I''d guess that Ruby and Rails are
installed -
and as Greg said if you want to install any gems that require
compiling, you''ll need the tools installed. But that''s not a
big deal
- the dev tools come with the OS.

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