Hello every one, I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search google to know why but I did not get much results , can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage ruby gives me over PHP ? Thanks alot -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Do you want Ruby vs PHP or Rails vs PHP? Ruby vs PHP: Ruby is a solid, pure OO language that''s fun to program in and has very few, if any, surprises. PHP is a hacked-together-over-many-years scripting language for web sites. You really need to spend some time with Ruby, read the books (http://www.rubycentral.com/pickaxe/) to understand why PHP really is a terrible language. Rails vs PHP: Well, now you''re comparing a web framework with a language, which really doesn''t make sense. If you''re sick of manually setting up database connections, building up SQL queries, hard-coding and hacking up how pages flow together and trying to find the "nice, neat, and proper" way of doing large sites in PHP, well then go look at Rails, because a majority of your problems are taken care of for you. Do you have any specific questions? It''s hard to really compare the two without either a large dissertation or having a list of questions to answer about both. Jason On 9/18/07, Mdk4ever Mdk4ever <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > Hello every one, > I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people > talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search > google to know why but I did not get much results , > > can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage > ruby gives me over PHP ? > > Thanks alot > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Thanks Jason, what you said really will lead my decision, I use DW (dreamweaver) CS3 to setup several things automatically like page layout CSS , database connection and sql and it is great really , the only thing I dont like is debugging just tell me about this framework and is there and IDE like dw I can use it with RoR? I dont like to code and then see the result I like to design first the interface then implement the functionality does RoR do this ? is there a video tutorials (free or with money) I can see to know how to connect to DB and making small web app ? I saw some videos on the ror.org but I only see someone code in a black screen remind me of old programming language, is it the way ruby work, and how ? sorry but I completely newbie here Thanks -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi there, I was also using PHP for everything, even though (I am a Java - Flash/Flex dev) I noticed it wasn''t what I call "OOP". I started learning Rails, and Ruby, about two months ago and I''m not using PHP anymore. In fact I even trhough anything that was related to PHP on my machine. Ruby and Rails are great to get everything done, the language is quite easy to understand if you''ve already programmed. Grab a Ruby or RubyOnRails book, and in a couple of weeks (or maybe hours) you''ll be enjoying it aswell. cheers ;) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Big Choco , Wow !! I will get video tutorials from lynda I prefer watching videos now after 14 years of programming and reading books my eyes get tired :) but if you know an excellent book tell me about it, thanks -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I forgot to ask does my current php host can run ruby ? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Depends, and you should ask your host. If they don''t, perhaps you can suggest they get with the program. I ended up changing hosts because 1&1 was not very receptive to discussion on Rails. It was a small inconvenience when compared with the days of my life that have been saved from using rails. There are several good hosting companies available for rails. Check out http://www.railshosting.org/. I chose HostGator because of their reputation for helpful customer service. I have no complaints. On Sep 18, 11:13 am, mdk4ever -- <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I forgot to ask does my current php host can run ruby ? > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
If you are looking for an IDE extension for Ruby on Rails here is a link http://rubyweaver.gilluminate.com/ Salam Madior Fall On Sep 18, 9:42 am, mdk4ever -- <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Thanks Jason, > what you said really will lead my decision, I use DW (dreamweaver) CS3 > to setup several things automatically like page layout CSS , database > connection and sql and it is great really , the only thing I dont like > is debugging > > just tell me about this framework and is there and IDE like dw I can use > it with RoR? > > I dont like to code and then see the result I like to design first the > interface then implement the functionality does RoR do this ? > > is there a video tutorials (free or with money) I can see to know how to > connect to DB and making small web app ? > > I saw some videos on the ror.org but I only see someone code in a black > screen remind me of old programming language, is it the way ruby work, > and how ? > > sorry but I completely newbie here > Thanks > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I forgot to mention For Dreamweaver CS3 Salam Fall On Sep 18, 11:20 am, Salam Fall <papesa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> If you are looking for an IDE extension for Ruby on Rails here is a > linkhttp://rubyweaver.gilluminate.com/ > > Salam Madior Fall > > On Sep 18, 9:42 am, mdk4ever -- <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> > wrote: > > > Thanks Jason, > > what you said really will lead my decision, I use DW (dreamweaver) CS3 > > to setup several things automatically like page layout CSS , database > > connection and sql and it is great really , the only thing I dont like > > is debugging > > > just tell me about this framework and is there and IDE like dw I can use > > it with RoR? > > > I dont like to code and then see the result I like to design first the > > interface then implement the functionality does RoR do this ? > > > is there a video tutorials (free or with money) I can see to know how to > > connect to DB and making small web app ? > > > I saw some videos on the ror.org but I only see someone code in a black > > screen remind me of old programming language, is it the way ruby work, > > and how ? > > > sorry but I completely newbie here > > Thanks > > -- > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
The latest build of NetBeans has some nice Ruby/Rails features, and it''s free. I''m using it exclusively at the moment for my rails work (though I still keep a console open). -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Thank you very much you are a wonderful group , BTW: I hear that codegear lunched an IDE for rails called 3rdrails, what do you think ? they lunched before and IDE for php but ot was very bugy !!! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
is there a full featured IDE, I really hate to use command line to write ruby syntax or database structure -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 9/18/07, mdk4ever -- <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > is there a full featured IDE, I really hate to use command line to write > ruby syntax or database structure > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >The thing with Ruby and IDEs is that one: the dynamic nature of the language makes it hard for things like intellisense and two: Ruby is such a straight forward language that writing, running, etc is extremely easy. That said, there are quite a few IDE''s converted to work with Ruby, including NetBeans, RadRails (Eclipse), and SteelRuby (VisualStudio). Jason --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
This should get you started http://www.google.com/search?q=ror+ide On Sep 18, 2007, at 11:54 AM, mdk4ever -- wrote:> > is there a full featured IDE, I really hate to use command line to > write > ruby syntax or database structure > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
combination of flex and PHP seems also powerful since with a great looking interface could be easily implemented , can RoR make good interfaces or do I have to JS with it ? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 18 Sep 2007, at 18:09, mdk4ever -- wrote:> combination of flex and PHP seems also powerful since with a great > looking interface could be easily implemented , can RoR make good > interfaces or do I have to JS with it ?You''re confusing a lot of things here. PHP and Ruby are serverside languages. Rails, Symphony, CakePHP, ... are frameworks. Flex is nothing more than a presentation layer, just as HTML is. You can use Flex with RoR (producing XML in your views that Flex can then take and visualize), just as you could use *gulp* CakePHP or Symphony or your own PHP framework to pass XML to Flex. You could also use HTML and JS to visualize your data, or you could use OpenLaszlo. Beautiful interfaces are possible with any of these, and it''s a matter of taste. I personally don''t think the default Flex interface elements are that great, just like raw unstyled HTML isn''t that great. Best regards Peter De Berdt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
yes I know, I meant if I can use flex with RoR like PHP, ok thanks for your answer -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Here are some links that might help for the Flex + RoR combination: http://flex.org/ruby/ http://flexonrails.net/ Cheers, Peter Armstrong On 9/18/07, mdk4ever -- <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > yes I know, I meant if I can use flex with RoR like PHP, > ok thanks for your answer > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
thanks alot -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
ok, another question, what about ASP.NET vs ruby ? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Also a great IDE for Ruby and Ruby on Rails is Aptana IDE with RadRails plugins installed: http://www.aptana.com -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 18 Sep 2007, at 19:45, mdk4ever -- wrote:> ok, another question, what about ASP.NET vs ruby ?What about junk food vs restaurant food? It depends on what you prefer, I prefer restaurant food. Best regards Peter De Berdt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
@mdk4... If you are insistent on a point-click-drag solution, Ruby on Rails may not be your ideal solution. My view of Rails is that it encourages putting the most thought and care into the areas of your Web application that are likely to be hardest to get right and most dangerous if you get wrong. Perhaps reversing the sense of that is better: Rails puts the most emphasis on doing right by the parts that will screw you the worst if you get them wrong. For example: - Baked in generators create models, controllers (and at the same time views) - Each code generator creates skeleton tests (!!!) - Pushing your business logic into the model and writing meaningful tests will reduce the risk of your app screwing up This is probably all obvious stuff, but it''s not an integral part of the development methodology of most environments. That said, a generator is typically not a menu item in an IDE. It''s a command in a "black window" such as: $ script/generate controller posts I''ve found that because Rails is "opinionated" software it encourages good practices -- ones that only the more disciplined developers keep up with using Java or ASP.NET. A relatively small number of PHP developers do formal testing, from my experience. If you haven''t tried Rails, put Dreamweaver away for a bit, open up a terminal, and follow along with one of the tutorials. Only by using the "black window" will you discover that it''s not to be feared -- rather, it will improve your productivity. My $.02 On Sep 18, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Peter De Berdt wrote:> > On 18 Sep 2007, at 19:45, mdk4ever -- wrote: > >> ok, another question, what about ASP.NET vs ruby ? > > What about junk food vs restaurant food? It depends on what you > prefer, I prefer restaurant food. > > > Best regards > > Peter De Berdt > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Steve Ross, Thanks alot I will do that , I am glad of all your opinions and I am also very happy it is not face to face - lol -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 9/18/07, Mdk4ever Mdk4ever <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Hello every one, > I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people > talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search > google to know why but I did not get much results , > > can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage > ruby gives me over PHP ?Ruby on Rails sucks. Definitely use PHP. :~) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Bob Showalter wrote:> On 9/18/07, Mdk4ever Mdk4ever <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> Hello every one, >> I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people >> talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search >> google to know why but I did not get much results , >> >> can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage >> ruby gives me over PHP ? > > Ruby on Rails sucks. Definitely use PHP. > > > :~)first one that say something like this here !!!!!!! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi, it''s also possible to use Flex front-end and a Rails back-end. Thus, please take a look at the following: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex2_rails.html Good luck, -Conrad On 9/18/07, mdk4ever -- <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > combination of flex and PHP seems also powerful since with a great > looking interface could be easily implemented , can RoR make good > interfaces or do I have to JS with it ? > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
mdk4ever -- schrieb:> Bob Showalter wrote: > >> On 9/18/07, Mdk4ever Mdk4ever <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >>> Hello every one, >>> I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people >>> talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search >>> google to know why but I did not get much results , >>> >>> can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage >>> ruby gives me over PHP ? >>> >> Ruby on Rails sucks. Definitely use PHP. >> >> >> :~) >> > > first one that say something like this here !!!!!!! >dude, you must be unreal... this topic has been discussed thousands of times and the net is full of info about that if you are really curious about and serious interested move your indian ass and get the info yourself and dont flood the list5 just my 2 cents --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Conrad Taylor wrote:> Hi, it''s also possible to use Flex front-end and a Rails back-end. > Thus, > please take a look at the following: > > http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex2_rails.html > > Good luck, > > -Conradthis tutorial was excellent now I have a good idea how RoR work and hiw it could be integrated as a backend with flex , thanks Conrad BTW: what My $0.02 mean ?? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
mdk4ever -- wrote:> BTW: what My $0.02 mean ?? >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_two_cents_(idiom) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
mdk4ever -- wrote:> BTW: what My $0.02 mean ??http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my+2+cents -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Sep 19, 2007, at 2:59 , matthibcn wrote:> move your indian assComments like this haven no place on this list. Please refrain from posting until you can discuss issues in a civil manner. Michael Glaesemann grzm seespotcode net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 9/19/07, matthibcn <matthibcn-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> if you are really curious about and serious interested move your indian > ass and get the info yourself and dont flood the list5 >So wait a second, should I move my ass too ? Do you wanna change that "indian" part ? And yes, it is offensive. -- Cheers! - Pratik http://m.onkey.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
There is no excuse for this kind of talk. Absolutely none. On Sep 19, 12:59 am, matthibcn <matthi...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> mdk4ever -- schrieb: > > > Bob Showalter wrote: > > >> On 9/18/07, Mdk4ever Mdk4ever <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > >>> Hello every one, > >>> I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people > >>> talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search > >>> google to know why but I did not get much results , > > >>> can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage > >>> ruby gives me over PHP ? > > >> Ruby on Rails sucks. Definitely use PHP. > > >> :~) > > > first one that say something like this here !!!!!!! > > dude, you must be unreal... > > this topic has been discussed thousands of times and the net is full of > info about that > > if you are really curious about and serious interested move your indian > ass and get the info yourself and dont flood the list5 > > just my 2 cents--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
mdk4ever -- wrote:> Hello every one, > I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people > talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search > google to know why but I did not get much results , > > can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage > ruby gives me over PHP ? > > Thanks alotwow, I''m surprised no one on here posted this... http://railsenvy.com/ Check out the videos, they are funny and informative :) ~Jeremy -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Very funny videos Jeremy, thanks for the link. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
mdk4ever -- wrote:> Hello every one, > I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people > talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search > google to know why but I did not get much results , > > can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage > ruby gives me over PHP ? > > Thanks alotYou should FIRST know what a Framework is, what a programming language is, and what the difference between them. ...then you will know the answer to your question. People keep competing languages versus frameworks which is totally wrong! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---