Rails - Sep 2007 - Looking for Rails developer to join a startup and become co-founder

Looking for Rails developer to join a startup and become co-founder.
It has to be someone who''s passionate about software, knows the stuff,
doer, and can work alone. Phase one will take about 200-250 hours to
develop. Flexible hours, part time, from home. Compensation will be
high percentage equity, or contract fee, or combination of the two. If
interested, tell me about yourself, some work that you did, and why
you''re interested.

The project has a business model and it revolutionizes an existing
one. It''s powered by the community, but not for the purpose of plain
personal networking. You''d use it only if you need to do a transaction
-- and it''s the type of transaction that most people do.


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Some advice on a startup jag...

YL wrote:
> Looking for Rails developer to join a startup and become co-founder.
> It has to be someone who''s passionate about software, knows the
stuff,
> doer, and can work alone. Phase one will take about 200-250 hours to
> develop.
Even when executives are just trying to help, they almost always cause 
friction when they estimate hours. Speak in terms of the estimated number of 
pages and the number of gadgets on each page.

Next, some developers only deal locally. This is my preference - and maybe 
I''m the only one! But still, report where you are located. Distance is 
another source of friction.

-- 
  Phlip
  http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510657/
  "Test Driven Ajax (on Rails)"
  assert_xpath, assert_javascript, & assert_ajax 


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Thanks, I take your comments. I would estimate 4-6 pages and 2-6
widgets per page. As we all know, it''s rather difficult to estimate
software and I would like to box it in about 200-250 hours for the
first phase. I am based in New York City, but I am open for
development overseas.

YL

On Sep 10, 1:04 pm, "Phlip"
<phlip2...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Some advice on a startup jag...
>
> YL wrote:
> > Looking for Rails developer to join a startup and become co-founder.
> > It has to be someone who''s passionate about software, knows
the stuff,
> > doer, and can work alone. Phase one will take about 200-250 hours to
> > develop.
>
> Even when executives are just trying to help, they almost always cause
> friction when they estimate hours. Speak in terms of the estimated number
of
> pages and the number of gadgets on each page.
>
> Next, some developers only deal locally. This is my preference - and maybe
> I''m the only one! But still, report where you are located.
Distance is
> another source of friction.
>
> --
>   Phlip
>  http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510657/
>   "Test Driven Ajax (on Rails)"
>   assert_xpath, assert_javascript, & assert_ajax

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On Sep 10, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Phlip wrote:
>
> Some advice on a startup jag...
>
> YL wrote:
>
>> Looking for Rails developer to join a startup and become co-founder.
>> It has to be someone who''s passionate about software, knows
the
>> stuff,
>> doer, and can work alone. Phase one will take about 200-250 hours to
>> develop.
>
> Even when executives are just trying to help, they almost always cause
> friction when they estimate hours. Speak in terms of the estimated  
> number of
> pages and the number of gadgets on each page.
Just wanted to follow up on this...

I''d argue that focusing on # of pages and gadgets isn''t a good
way to
work either. We''re building solutions and it shouldn''t be
measured by
the # of gadgets that show up on a screen. Even then... one  
"gadget" (not a word I''d ever use on the web...) could take
more time
than the rest of the application, so I''d not recommend focusing too  
much on counting components/features/gadgets.

My two cents,

Robby


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Robby Russell wrote:
> I''d argue that focusing on # of pages and gadgets isn''t a
good way to
> work either.
I''m not talking about estimates while developing; I''m talking
about up-front
estimates. Estimates while developing are a walking average.
> We''re building solutions and it shouldn''t be measured by
> the # of gadgets that show up on a screen. Even then... one
> "gadget" (not a word I''d ever use on the web...) could
take more time
> than the rest of the application, so I''d not recommend focusing
too
> much on counting components/features/gadgets.
You haven''t had a Parisian boss e-mail you a list of >15 complex
bugs that
someone else wrote, and say "now get these all done in two days".

-- 
  Phlip 


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Quick comment re fixings complex bugs that someone else wrote --
that''s not gonna happen here. You''ll be writing the first line
of
code!! I think it''s a cool fact worthwhile mentioning...

On Sep 10, 2:05 pm, "Phlip"
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wrote:
> Robby Russell wrote:
> > I''d argue that focusing on # of pages and gadgets
isn''t a good way to
> > work either.
>
> I''m not talking about estimates while developing; I''m
talking about up-front
> estimates. Estimates while developing are a walking average.
>
> > We''re building solutions and it shouldn''t be
measured by
> > the # of gadgets that show up on a screen. Even then... one
> > "gadget" (not a word I''d ever use on the web...)
could take more time
> > than the rest of the application, so I''d not recommend
focusing too
> > much on counting components/features/gadgets.
>
> You haven''t had a Parisian boss e-mail you a list of >15
complex bugs that
> someone else wrote, and say "now get these all done in two days".
>
> --
>   Phlip

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Tomorrow night the NYC Ruby group gets together, perhaps you should  
show up? Chances are you could find a local resource. I''ll forward  
the info to you off-list.

-- Mitch, wishing he could go but just got back from europe and is  
simply buried!

On Sep 10, 2007, at 13:21 , YL wrote:
> Thanks, I take your comments. I would estimate 4-6 pages and 2-6
> widgets per page. As we all know, it''s rather difficult to
estimate
> software and I would like to box it in about 200-250 hours for the
> first phase. I am based in New York City, but I am open for
> development overseas.

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Thanks for the invite Mitch, that sounds good. Unfortunately I won''t
be able to make it to tomorrow''s meeting, but I plan to attend the
next one on Oct 9. I look forward to it.

YL

On Sep 10, 8:24 pm, Mitch Pirtle
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wrote:
> Tomorrow night the NYC Ruby group gets together, perhaps you should
> show up? Chances are you could find a local resource. I''ll forward
> the info to you off-list.
>
> -- Mitch, wishing he could go but just got back from europe and is
> simply buried!
>
> On Sep 10, 2007, at 13:21 , YL wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I take your comments. I would estimate 4-6 pages and 2-6
> > widgets per page. As we all know, it''s rather difficult to
estimate
> > software and I would like to box it in about 200-250 hours for the
> > first phase. I am based in New York City, but I am open for
> > development overseas.

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