Yesterday I ran sudo gem update rails --include-dependencies on OS X 10.4 with MySQL 4.1. and rails 1.1.4 working well. Now nothing works. I have now spent a day trying to repair the damage and have had no success. I expect I will have to wipe out Ruby and gem and raills and start over. People seem exuberant about rails 1.2, but I am getting the feeling I had about Java 4 years ago (that it was about to sink from its own complexity.) Regards, jmmiller --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 9-Mar-07, at 3:42 PM, jmmiller wrote:> > Yesterday I ran sudo gem update rails --include-dependencies on OS X > 10.4 with > MySQL 4.1. and rails 1.1.4 working well. Now nothing works. I have > now spent a day > trying to repair the damage and have had no success. I expect I will > have to wipe > out Ruby and gem and raills and start over. People seem exuberant > about rails 1.2, > but I am getting the feeling I had about Java 4 years ago (that it was > about to sink > from its own complexity.) > > Regards, > jmmillerthis kind of post doesn''t help you or us. if you want to benefit from the community then provide context and symptoms. if you want to benefit the community, then provide the solutions to your problems. I don''t know what you''re looking for - sympathy? Jodi --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I agree with Jodi. If you need help then post something useful. I''ve been running rails 1.2.2 on the mac since before it was released. So has the rest of my team. Search Google and there are plenty of guides. On Mar 9, 10:50 am, Jodi Showers <j...-BOB1p6JRLoAV+D8aMU/kSg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 9-Mar-07, at 3:42 PM, jmmiller wrote: > > > > > Yesterday I ran sudo gem update rails --include-dependencies on OS X > > 10.4 with > > MySQL 4.1. and rails 1.1.4 working well. Now nothing works. I have > > now spent a day > > trying to repair the damage and have had no success. I expect I will > > have to wipe > > out Ruby and gem and raills and start over. People seem exuberant > > about rails 1.2, > > but I am getting the feeling I had about Java 4 years ago (that it was > > about to sink > > from its own complexity.) > > > Regards, > > jmmiller > > this kind of post doesn''t help you or us. > > if you want to benefit from the community then provide context and > symptoms. > > if you want to benefit the community, then provide the solutions to > your problems. > > I don''t know what you''re looking for - sympathy? > > Jodi--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I''m sorry if I annoyed you folks. I am not quite ready to ask for help yet. I learn more by taking the time to work on it a bit longer. I was wondering if you, who work more on Rails than I, feel the learning curve is getting steeper. I do not want to start a religious argument. I seem to have misread the title of the group. Good day, jmmiller --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Mar 9, 2007, at 4:46 PM, jmmiller wrote:> I learn more by taking the time to work on it a bit longer. I was > wondering if you, who work more on Rails than I, feel the learning > curve is getting steeper. I do not want to start a religious > argument. I seem to have misread the title of the group.I feel that the learning curve of *everything* is getting steeping, and at an ever increasing rate. :-) Rails is great because there''s such a high rate of return on the learning, i.e. when you do learn something new, it allows you to be efficient enough to spend a little extra time learning other new things...and the cycle repeats! In any case, the problem you had was one of system administration, not Rails itself. You took a perfectly functional development system and made changes to it without backing it up first. Additionally, you chose to upgrade to a new version of your development framework without, apparently, investigating what that might mean. I''ve done all of these things myself, and have generally kicked myself after doing so. I do it far less frequently than I used to. That''s a learning curve in-and-of itself, I suppose. :-) Hang in there and keep your chin up. Rails is a very good place to be right now. With the rate of change the core team is handing us, it will not be boring anytime soon. :-) -- -- Tom Mornini, CTO -- Engine Yard, Ruby on Rails Hosting -- Reliability, Ease of Use, Scalability -- (866) 518-YARD (9273) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Friday 09 March 2007, Tom Mornini wrote:> I feel that the learning curve of *everything* is getting steeping, > and at an ever increasing rate. :-)That''s nothing to do with Rails, that''s called getting older. >;-) SCNR, Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 9-Mar-07, at 4:57 PM, Tom Mornini wrote:> > Hang in there and keep your chin up. Rails is a very good place to be > right now. With the rate of change the core team is handing us, it > will > not be boring anytime soon. :-) >well said Tom. A positive response is appreciated. jmmiller, what I said was true (imo), if unbalanced. There is a great body of active knowledge here when you have questions. Jodi --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Mar 9, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote:> On Friday 09 March 2007, Tom Mornini wrote: > >> I feel that the learning curve of *everything* is getting steeping, >> and at an ever increasing rate. :-) > > That''s nothing to do with Rails, that''s called getting older. >;-)No, the older age senility thing is why I misspelled "steeper" :-) Technology is increasing at an exponential rate, I assure you! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity -- -- Tom Mornini, CTO -- Engine Yard, Ruby on Rails Hosting -- Reliability, Ease of Use, Scalability -- (866) 518-YARD (9273) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Mar 9, 4:57 pm, Tom Mornini <tmorn...-W/9V78bTXriB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> In any case, the problem you had was one of system administration, > not Rails itself. You took a perfectly functional development system > and made changes to it without backing it up first.No, I''m not that young, I only made the changes to my sandbox. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I followed the instructions at Hivelogic: http://hivelogic.com/narrative/articles/ruby-rails-mongrel-mysql-osx and my PowerBook has Ruby 1.8.5, MySQL 5.0, Subversion 1.4 and Rails 1.2.2. My upgrade from old versions is successful. Remember that you must install the readline library before upgrading to Ruby 1.8.5.> out Ruby and gem and raills and start over. People seem exuberant > about rails 1.2, > but I am getting the feeling I had about Java 4 years ago (that it was > about to sink > from its own complexity.) > > Regards, > jmmiller--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---