So I''ve developed a rails app locally. Its awesome. It works great and exactly how I want it to...but there is one problem....and its a big one.... NOT ONE SITE SHOWS YOU STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS FOR DEPLOYMENT It just boggles my mind how rails is such an "awesome" and easy to use framework yet deploying the app is more complicated than creating the app. Why is this? Why isn''t it just a simple upload away from working? AND why are there no STEP BY STEP instructions for making my beatiful app work on my server??? Thanks --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> NOT ONE SITE SHOWS YOU STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS FOR DEPLOYMENTHave you googled for "Capistrano rails" yet? Many Rails ISPs have "how to" shingles out, for their However, we agree that nothing inside Rails says "Capistrano", so there''s no trail of breadcrumbs here... -- Phlip http://www.greencheese.us/ZeekLand <-- NOT a blog!!! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Feb 25, 2007, at 7:29 PM, seanstewart wrote:> NOT ONE SITE SHOWS YOU STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS FOR DEPLOYMENTI''ve found a number of them. Every single one gives a different way, every single one is not exactly what I need, and every single one is rapidly out of date. Beyond that, every single one is specific to the environment that the writer is deploying in to. The short form is: - You should look in to capistrano for automated deployment. Yes, the manuals are down. Yes, they are in the wayback machine and the Google cache. - If you''re using a shared host then you''re likely getting apache 1.3 with fcgi or apache 2.2 with balanced mod_proxy -> mongrel. If you''re using a VPS then people seem to favor the latter. Get on the capistrano and rails-deployment mailing lists if need be. -faisal --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Also, coming soon: http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/fr_deploy/index.html -faisal --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Check out Capistrano if you need to deploy to multiple servers. Make sure your host suports rails, rails setup in shared environments is often site specific. Check google, http://www.google.com/search?q=deploy+rails returs a few thousand pages. seanstewart wrote:> So I''ve developed a rails app locally. Its awesome. It works great > and exactly how I want it to...but there is one problem....and its a > big one.... > > NOT ONE SITE SHOWS YOU STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS FOR DEPLOYMENT > > It just boggles my mind how rails is such an "awesome" and easy to use > framework yet deploying the app is more complicated than creating the > app. Why is this? Why isn''t it just a simple upload away from > working? AND why are there no STEP BY STEP instructions for making my > beatiful app work on my server??? > > Thanks--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
eth1 wrote:> Check out Capistrano if you need to deploy to multiple servers.And if you deploy to a single server. -- Phlip http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ZeekLand <-- NOT a blog!! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 26 Feb 2007, at 16:35, Phlip wrote:>> Check out Capistrano if you need to deploy to multiple servers. > > And if you deploy to a single server.Also use Capistrano if you want to make your life easier in the long term :-) I didn''t use Capistrano with my first apps because i didn''t feel the need to learn it at that time, that was a wrong decision ;-) Best regards Peter De Berdt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Thank you to all who replied. You all suggested Capistrano which is cool. However, that requires knowledge of SVN and creating repositories and other stuff that I am supposed to know about how? Its just so furstrating that there isn''t one tutorial that says it all. It is like going to see a movie you waited to see for over a year...and then the last five minutes of it cut out. So I visited the *amazing* wiki on ror.org to find out more about this subversion that is required with capistrano or whatever. I read: HowtoUseRailsWithSubversion and think to myself, oh well this should definitely help me out. (Please visit: http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/HowtoUseRailsWithSubversion ). The first sentence reads: "This assumes that you have already created a subversion repository....". So I say to myself, ok cool, I will just google how to create this subversion supository crap. I search "create SVN repository" which gives me back about 942,000 results. AWESOME maybe I will be one step closer to launcing my rails app. NOOOOOO - NOT ONE SITE on the first 20 pages helps. NOTHING. It is a never ending cycle. The closer you get - the further you get. Why the hell isn''t this as easy as uploading. I''ve spent more time trying to figure out how to deploy than it takes me to develop my damn app. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I understand your frustration, that''s why I created a cap deploy how to, I found there were just steps missing that anyone new to rails /svn or deployment in general would overlook It took me a whole weekend to come to realize that cap wouldn''t work on a non-posix shell, but that''s not mentioned anywhere! Amr Malik cleaned up my how to and posted it here: http://groups.google.com/group/capistrano/web/bare-bones-cap-howto its barebones , but I hope it give you some initial understanding of how this all works together if you can get this far then the rest is , by comparision, easy let me know if you get stuck on anything and ill add in the step that is obviously missing -----Original Message----- From: rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org [mailto:rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of seanstewart Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:11 PM To: Ruby on Rails: Talk Subject: [Rails] Re: Deployment Thank you to all who replied. You all suggested Capistrano which is cool. However, that requires knowledge of SVN and creating repositories and other stuff that I am supposed to know about how? Its just so furstrating that there isn''t one tutorial that says it all. It is like going to see a movie you waited to see for over a year...and then the last five minutes of it cut out. So I visited the *amazing* wiki on ror.org to find out more about this subversion that is required with capistrano or whatever. I read: HowtoUseRailsWithSubversion and think to myself, oh well this should definitely help me out. (Please visit: http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/HowtoUseRailsWithSubversion ). The first sentence reads: "This assumes that you have already created a subversion repository....". So I say to myself, ok cool, I will just google how to create this subversion supository crap. I search "create SVN repository" which gives me back about 942,000 results. AWESOME maybe I will be one step closer to launcing my rails app. NOOOOOO - NOT ONE SITE on the first 20 pages helps. NOTHING. It is a never ending cycle. The closer you get - the further you get. Why the hell isn''t this as easy as uploading. I''ve spent more time trying to figure out how to deploy than it takes me to develop my damn app. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
http://www.subversion.org gets you to Subversion''s home page. As you move from building your app to deploying and maintaining it, tools such as Subversion move from "Why would I even care about this?" to "This could be useful" to "How did I live without it?" in a very short period. If you''re not across Subversion (and/or similar revision control tools), then it''s absolutely worth spending the time to do so. Furthermore, if you''re working in Windows with Subversion, you''ll probably want to check out TortoiseSVN. Once you''ve got your Subversion repository happening, TortoiseSVN hides all Subversion''s complexity and lets you get on with doing your work. With respect to Capistrano, it''s linked closely to Subversion because the guy who originally developed it happened to use Subversion. Regards Dave M. On 27/02/07, seanstewart <seanstewartweb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Thank you to all who replied. You all suggested Capistrano which is > cool. However, that requires knowledge of SVN and creating > repositories and other stuff that I am supposed to know about how? > Its just so furstrating that there isn''t one tutorial that says it > all. It is like going to see a movie you waited to see for over a > year...and then the last five minutes of it cut out. > > So I visited the *amazing* wiki on ror.org to find out more about this > subversion that is required with capistrano or whatever. I read: > HowtoUseRailsWithSubversion and think to myself, oh well this should > definitely help me out. (Please visit: > http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/HowtoUseRailsWithSubversion ). > > The first sentence reads: "This assumes that you have already created > a subversion repository....". So I say to myself, ok cool, I will > just google how to create this subversion supository crap. I search > "create SVN repository" which gives me back about 942,000 results. > AWESOME maybe I will be one step closer to launcing my rails app. > NOOOOOO - NOT ONE SITE on the first 20 pages helps. NOTHING. It is a > never ending cycle. The closer you get - the further you get. Why > the hell isn''t this as easy as uploading. I''ve spent more time trying > to figure out how to deploy than it takes me to develop my damn app. > > > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
seanstewart wrote:> Thank you to all who replied. You all suggested Capistrano which is > cool. However, that requires knowledge of SVN and creating > repositories and other stuff that I am supposed to know about how? > Its just so furstrating that there isn''t one tutorial that says it > all. It is like going to see a movie you waited to see for over a > year...and then the last five minutes of it cut out. > > So I visited the *amazing* wiki on ror.org to find out more about this > subversion that is required with capistrano or whatever. I read: > HowtoUseRailsWithSubversion and think to myself, oh well this should > definitely help me out. (Please visit: > http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/HowtoUseRailsWithSubversion ). > > The first sentence reads: "This assumes that you have already created > a subversion repository....". So I say to myself, ok cool, I will > just google how to create this subversion supository crap. I search > "create SVN repository" which gives me back about 942,000 results. > AWESOME maybe I will be one step closer to launcing my rails app. > NOOOOOO - NOT ONE SITE on the first 20 pages helps. NOTHING. It is a > never ending cycle. The closer you get - the further you get. Why > the hell isn''t this as easy as uploading. I''ve spent more time trying > to figure out how to deploy than it takes me to develop my damn app. > >Umm, I just posted this in response to another query.. I''d recommend you take a look at the guide that comes with the TortoiseSVN - it extracts bits and pieces from the SVN Book but since it also talks about a specific tool, it''s more tangible at parts and explains some of the stuff that people take from granted when they write about SVN. For example, you''ll find that everyone says that you use a structure like trunk, branches and tags. But for an absolute newbie, it''s a bit confusing about what *you* have to do to create the initial repository layout. By chance or design, the TortoiseSVN guid discusses it :) FWIW, It''s quick to read through also... you can relatively quickly learn enough to start using SVN on a daily basis (and it''s really easy to use TortoiseSVN if you''re on Windows) and benefit from it - at some later point, you''ll need to read more to understand some of the more advanced features. Someone (rubaidah.com ??) also has a script that does the job of creating a basic layout of a Rails project in Subversion when you want to create a new project. Sorry, I don''t have the link at hand, but I''m sure you should be able to ask Google. Hope this helps you on the Subversion side of things! Cheers Mohit. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Very few people doing modern MVC web development work without version control these days, so you''re going to find little out there about deploying Rails apps by FTP a file or a folder at a time, 1997 PHP-style. Working with one set of files, occasionally backing it up by hand to a zip, and copying things over by FTP is not just unwise, but mighty tedious in the case of a modern MVC web app with its dozens of directories and hundreds of files. Crazy as it sounds, stop worrying about deployment for a day or two, start using version control on a remote server (yours or some cheap hosted Subversion service), and read up on Capistrano. It''ll even run your migrations automatically every time you push out an update. Yum. :) seanstewart wrote:> Thank you to all who replied. You all suggested Capistrano which is > cool. However, that requires knowledge of SVN and creating > repositories and other stuff that I am supposed to know about how? > Its just so furstrating that there isn''t one tutorial that says it > all. It is like going to see a movie you waited to see for over a > year...and then the last five minutes of it cut out. > > So I visited the *amazing* wiki on ror.org to find out more about this > subversion that is required with capistrano or whatever. I read: > HowtoUseRailsWithSubversion and think to myself, oh well this should > definitely help me out. (Please visit: > http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/HowtoUseRailsWithSubversion ). > > The first sentence reads: "This assumes that you have already created > a subversion repository....". So I say to myself, ok cool, I will > just google how to create this subversion supository crap. I search > "create SVN repository" which gives me back about 942,000 results. > AWESOME maybe I will be one step closer to launcing my rails app. > NOOOOOO - NOT ONE SITE on the first 20 pages helps. NOTHING. It is a > never ending cycle. The closer you get - the further you get. Why > the hell isn''t this as easy as uploading. I''ve spent more time trying > to figure out how to deploy than it takes me to develop my damn app.-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---