Rails - Feb 2007 - How do you actually use rails on a shared server?

I''ve successfully installed rails on my windows machine however I have
no idea how to use rails on a shared server that I have recently
purchased. This is running rails on a linux box and it doesn''t seem
quite as simple as just uploading a bunch of data via ftp such as my
application that I used on my windows which I created through the
shell.

Do I have to use a shell on the linux box and create the application?
Is it as simple as PHP where you just upload a file and the script is
interpeted?

These things are really ailing me with ruby and discourage please help
=). I want to get up and starting on working with rails on this linux
box and code on my windows but it seems like I have execute a shell on
the linux one, issue the command to create an application, download
the application control files and then code. Is there any SIMPLE way?
What do I do!


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DigitalWarfare-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
wrote:
> I''ve successfully installed rails on my windows machine however I
have
> no idea how to use rails on a shared server that I have recently
> purchased. This is running rails on a linux box and it doesn''t
seem
> quite as simple as just uploading a bunch of data via ftp such as my
> application that I used on my windows which I created through the
> shell.
> 
> Do I have to use a shell on the linux box and create the application?
> Is it as simple as PHP where you just upload a file and the script is
> interpeted?
> 
> These things are really ailing me with ruby and discourage please help
> =). I want to get up and starting on working with rails on this linux
> box and code on my windows but it seems like I have execute a shell on
> the linux one, issue the command to create an application, download
> the application control files and then code. Is there any SIMPLE way?
> What do I do!
Does this host support Rails applications? Rails is not like PHP - it 
requires a more detailed installation to work correctly. If the host 
does support Rails apps, then they probably have a guide on how to 
install your application.

If they don''t support Rails apps, then there''s a pretty good
chance
you''re sunk. It pays to check and make sure the host you are planning
on
using actually supports your framework before you sign the contract.

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I''m in the same boat.  My gut is that even though there are some very
SEXY ways to deploy, on a rails enable server there must be a way to:

1) Upload the development tree of files
2) Create a .htaccess file somewhere appropriate to deal with all  the
rewrite stuff.

No?

I''d love to see some details on that. Yes, longer term I''m
going to do
things in a tidy manner but for now I need something quick and dirty.

Keith

On Feb 19, 9:51 am, Bryan Duxbury
<rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> DigitalWarf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > I''ve successfully installed rails on my windows machine
however I have
> > no idea how to use rails on a shared server that I have recently
> > purchased. This is running rails on a linux box and it
doesn''t seem
> > quite as simple as just uploading a bunch of data via ftp such as my
> > application that I used on my windows which I created through the
> > shell.
>
> > Do I have to use a shell on the linux box and create the application?
> > Is it as simple as PHP where you just upload a file and the script is
> > interpeted?
>
> > These things are really ailing me with ruby and discourage please help
> > =). I want to get up and starting on working with rails on this linux
> > box and code on my windows but it seems like I have execute a shell on
> > the linux one, issue the command to create an application, download
> > the application control files and then code. Is there any SIMPLE way?
> > What do I do!
>
> Does this host support Rails applications? Rails is not like PHP - it
> requires a more detailed installation to work correctly. If the host
> does support Rails apps, then they probably have a guide on how to
> install your application.
>
> If they don''t support Rails apps, then there''s a pretty
good chance
> you''re sunk. It pays to check and make sure the host you are
planning on
> using actually supports your framework before you sign the contract.
>
> --
> Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.

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On 2/19/07, KJH <keith.hunniford-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> I''m in the same boat.  My gut is that even though there are some
very
> SEXY ways to deploy, on a rails enable server there must be a way to:
>
> 1) Upload the development tree of files
Most web hosts support SSH and/or FTP.
> 2) Create a .htaccess file somewhere appropriate to deal with all  the
> rewrite stuff.
All the Rails apps I''ve created came with their own .htaccess file.
> No?
Yes?
> I''d love to see some details on that. Yes, longer term
I''m going to do
> things in a tidy manner but for now I need something quick and dirty.
Your specific deployment options will depend greatly on the particular
web host you use.  You might check out a few of them and see what you
like best:

http://railshostinginfo.com/


-- 
Greg Donald
http://destiney.com/

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FWIW I had a shared hostiing account with one of the well known rails
oriented providers. And it was a complete waste of my time.

I did get to learn about deployment steps, lighttpd, etc. But then the
server kept falling over.

So I splashed out on a vps with a deployment gem and it''s been a
smooth ride ever since.

Not only is the server up, but my development practise is improving. I
can deploy continually  throughout the day and my clients love seeing
changes to their "development" site.

The money spent on a decent bit of web space is well worth the time
not spent farting about on a crappy shared environement.

My 2 bits..

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Yes rails is installed. Do I have to use a shell just to start the
creation of a rails application or can I upload tree files on my
desktop to the server?

On Feb 19, 9:51 am, Bryan Duxbury
<rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> DigitalWarf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > I''ve successfully installed rails on my windows machine
however I have
> > no idea how to use rails on a shared server that I have recently
> > purchased. This is running rails on a linux box and it
doesn''t seem
> > quite as simple as just uploading a bunch of data via ftp such as my
> > application that I used on my windows which I created through the
> > shell.
>
> > Do I have to use a shell on the linux box and create the application?
> > Is it as simple as PHP where you just upload a file and the script is
> > interpeted?
>
> > These things are really ailing me with ruby and discourage please help
> > =). I want to get up and starting on working with rails on this linux
> > box and code on my windows but it seems like I have execute a shell on
> > the linux one, issue the command to create an application, download
> > the application control files and then code. Is there any SIMPLE way?
> > What do I do!
>
> Does this host support Rails applications? Rails is not like PHP - it
> requires a more detailed installation to work correctly. If the host
> does support Rails apps, then they probably have a guide on how to
> install your application.
>
> If they don''t support Rails apps, then there''s a pretty
good chance
> you''re sunk. It pays to check and make sure the host you are
planning on
> using actually supports your framework before you sign the contract.
>
> --
> Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.

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On 2/19/07, DigitalWarfare-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
<DigitalWarfare-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Yes rails is installed. Do I have to use a shell just to start the
> creation of a rails application or can I upload tree files on my
> desktop to the server?
You can upload the files, but first you''ll need to configure the
environment. e.g. lighttpd / mongrel / ? and the apache proxying.

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What I did was get SSH access, and I re-created my application, and 
generated my models. Then I was able to just upload changes in my views, 
controllers, models etc as I felt like it. Seems to work alright..

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gah yeah I guess I have to do that. I have shell access but I can''t
seem to connect through putty--maybe it''s my connection here at my
school hence why I am checking if there''s another way..

On Feb 19, 12:38 pm, Steve Klinko
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wrote:
> What I did was get SSH access, and I re-created my application, and
> generated my models. Then I was able to just upload changes in my views,
> controllers, models etc as I felt like it. Seems to work alright..
>
> --
> Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.

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On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:48 AM, toby privett wrote:
> So I splashed out on a vps with a deployment gem and it''s been a
> smooth ride ever since.
Can you flesh that out a little?

"splashed"
"vps"
"deployment gem"

I, too, would like to enjoy a smooth ride! :-)



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> smooth ride ever since.
> Can you flesh that out a little?
>
> "splashed"
> "vps"
> "deployment gem"
Certainly, I''m using railsmachine.com.

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