I installed Instant Rails on a variety of WinXP systems. I find that running commands like "ruby script/generate model xyz" run *very* slowly...anywhere from 4 seconds to 20 seconds (intolerable). I''m not talking about running an app via apache or fastcgi or mongrel...I''m just trying to generate models and controllers, run rake, etc. Some of the slower machines are around 2GHz and have only 512M of memory. I realize they won''t be as fast as my machine with 3GHz and 2GB memory, but I wouldn''t think they would be that slow! For what it is worth, my faster machine also runs linux, and things seem to run much faster under linux that under WinXP. Any ideas on making the WinXP stuff faster are appreciated. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Rick Schumeyer wrote:> > I installed Instant Rails on a variety of WinXP systems. I find that > running commands like "ruby script/generate model xyz" run *very* > slowly...anywhere from 4 seconds to 20 seconds (intolerable). I''m not > talking about running an app via apache or fastcgi or mongrel...I''m just > trying to generate models and controllers, run rake, etc.I have a 600 Mhz Dell notebook running Kubuntu, and a 2.5 Ghz Windows XP workstation. The notebook routinely blows the workstation away, for compiles, PovRay renderings, and anything to do with Ruby. It''s the nature of the beast. The fastest SMPs in the world are routinely Linux installations. Linux out-performs Solaris on their own Sun hardware. I just VNC into the notebook to get any work done, and I run the XP desktop for goodies like TV, MS Office, etc. -- Phlip http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ZeekLand <-- NOT a blog!! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi Rick, Rick Schumeyer wrote:> Any ideas on making the WinXP stuff faster are appreciated.Best I can figure is that if enough folks quit buying it, they''ll make it better. I made the mistake of letting an IE ''update'' go through, thinking I''d get a patch. Next thing I know I''ve got IE 7. Takes like 5x to load, then the POS crashes every time I use it to do a browser check on my app. To add insult to injury, I have to respond to the *^%#$ ''send error report dialog''. UFB. Best regards, Bill --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Feb 8, 8:53 pm, Rick Schumeyer <rschume...-EkmVulN54Sk@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I installed Instant Rails on a variety of WinXP systems. I find that > running commands like "ruby script/generate model xyz" run *very* > slowly...anywhere from 4 seconds to 20 seconds (intolerable). I''m not > talking about running an app via apache or fastcgi or mongrel...I''m just > trying to generate models and controllers, run rake, etc.It shouldn''t be that slow. I would suggest running rails without the Instant Rails package. I haven''t tried Instant Rails in a long time, so I don''t remember what versions of Ruby and Gems that it''s got. Just do this: 1. Get the latest Ruby One-Click Installer from RubyForge, i think it''s called 1.85 RC3. Install it with all the default options, takes about 60 seconds. 2. Open a command prompt, type "gem install rails --include- dependencies" (I''m assuming you''re not behind a proxy that requires authentication of some kind). 3. Install the latest MySQL "community server" edition - it''s easily available from the mysql.com downloads section. You can uncheck the "modify security settings" when you get to that panel in the installer so you can leave the root password blank. You should be off an running. Try to generate models and rake, and see how it compares. It should be a lot faster. If not, there''s something else going on with the machine. And let me know if you need more info. Jeff forum.softiesonrails.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 2/9/07, Jeff <cohen.jeff-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Feb 8, 8:53 pm, Rick Schumeyer <rschume...-EkmVulN54Sk@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > I installed Instant Rails on a variety of WinXP systems. I find that > > running commands like "ruby script/generate model xyz" run *very* > > slowly...anywhere from 4 seconds to 20 seconds (intolerable). I''m not > > talking about running an app via apache or fastcgi or mongrel...I''m just > > trying to generate models and controllers, run rake, etc.I find the generators to be quite slow on my windows laptop too, but that laptop is a skanky POS anyway, over 4 & 1/2 years old, and wasn''t even great when first purchased. But still I am in your ballpark. I stopped using Instant Rails a long time ago. Its a nice idea, but when it broke it broke bad. And I was ''forced'' to install Rails properly, which is what I should have been doing anyway. I suspect that the hit is due to the loading of the Ruby interpreter itself. I remember Java CLI tools having the same kind of issues back in the early days. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I''m running XP with 1.8Mhz intel CPU & 1GB RAM; Rails runs much faster than your reporting. Depending on what else your running, your machine may be a little bit starved of RAM. Run task manager & you will easily be able to see if your CPU or RAM is maxing out. - matt. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 2/8/07, Jeff <cohen.jeff-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > > On Feb 8, 8:53 pm, Rick Schumeyer <rschume...-EkmVulN54Sk@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > I installed Instant Rails on a variety of WinXP systems. I find that > > running commands like "ruby script/generate model xyz" run *very* > > slowly...anywhere from 4 seconds to 20 seconds (intolerable). I''m not > > talking about running an app via apache or fastcgi or mongrel...I''m just > > trying to generate models and controllers, run rake, etc. > > It shouldn''t be that slow. I would suggest running rails without the > Instant Rails package. I haven''t tried Instant Rails in a long time, > so I don''t remember what versions of Ruby and Gems that it''s got.The One-Click Ruby Installer and and Instant Rails are my two main open source projects, and I use the One-Click Ruby Installer as the Ruby the ships inside of Instant Rails. So, their should not be any diffeence between installing the pieces by hand or using Instant Rails. Curt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 2/9/07, Richard Conroy <richard.conroy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On 2/9/07, Jeff <cohen.jeff-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > On Feb 8, 8:53 pm, Rick Schumeyer <rschume...-EkmVulN54Sk@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > I installed Instant Rails on a variety of WinXP systems. I find that > > > running commands like "ruby script/generate model xyz" run *very* > > > slowly...anywhere from 4 seconds to 20 seconds (intolerable). I''m not > > > talking about running an app via apache or fastcgi or mongrel...I''m > just > > > trying to generate models and controllers, run rake, etc. > > I find the generators to be quite slow on my windows laptop too, but > that laptop is a skanky POS anyway, over 4 & 1/2 years old, and > wasn''t even great when first purchased. But still I am in your ballpark. > > I stopped using Instant Rails a long time ago. Its a nice idea, but > when it broke it broke bad. And I was ''forced'' to install Rails properly, > which is what I should have been doing anyway.I''d be interested to know what problems you had. When I create the Instant Rails package, I do the same thing that you would do by hand: 1) Install the One-Click Ruby Installer for Windows; 2) do a "gem install rails". Curt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Curt''s one-click-ruby actually flies on a dual core Intel or an AMD 64bit chip. Not sure why, cos I am running 32-bit Windows. My p4 and Xeon machines are dog slow though. On 2/9/07, Curt Hibbs <ml.chibbs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > On 2/9/07, Richard Conroy <richard.conroy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > On 2/9/07, Jeff <cohen.jeff-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > On Feb 8, 8:53 pm, Rick Schumeyer < rschume...-EkmVulN54Sk@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > I installed Instant Rails on a variety of WinXP systems. I find > > that > > > > running commands like "ruby script/generate model xyz" run *very* > > > > slowly...anywhere from 4 seconds to 20 seconds (intolerable). I''m > > not > > > > talking about running an app via apache or fastcgi or mongrel...I''m > > just > > > > trying to generate models and controllers, run rake, etc. > > > > I find the generators to be quite slow on my windows laptop too, but > > that laptop is a skanky POS anyway, over 4 & 1/2 years old, and > > wasn''t even great when first purchased. But still I am in your ballpark. > > > > > > I stopped using Instant Rails a long time ago. Its a nice idea, but > > when it broke it broke bad. And I was ''forced'' to install Rails > > properly, > > which is what I should have been doing anyway. > > > I''d be interested to know what problems you had. > > When I create the Instant Rails package, I do the same thing that you > would do by hand: 1) Install the One-Click Ruby Installer for Windows; 2) > do a "gem install rails". > > Curt > > > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Feb 9, 12:51 pm, "Curt Hibbs" <ml.chi...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > It shouldn''t be that slow. I would suggest running rails without the > > Instant Rails package. I haven''t tried Instant Rails in a long time, > > so I don''t remember what versions of Ruby and Gems that it''s got. > > The One-Click Ruby Installer and and Instant Rails are my two main open > source projects, and I use the One-Click Ruby Installer as the Ruby the > ships inside of Instant Rails. So, their should not be any diffeence between > installing the pieces by hand or using Instant Rails. > > CurtI totally agree - I just thought that maybe it would help him isolate whatever problem he''s got (and, I wasn''t sure how often you update the Instant Rails package... sorry about that.) Jeff softiesonrails.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
njmacinnes-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
2007-Feb-10 00:47 UTC
Re: Rails on WinXP...why so slow?
Sorry Curt, I don''t really understand why, but I found vast improvements in speed when I switched from Instant Rails to manually installed rails. From what you''re saying, it sounds like there should be no difference, but there is. -Nathan On 09/02/07, Curt Hibbs <ml.chibbs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > On 2/8/07, Jeff <cohen.jeff-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 8:53 pm, Rick Schumeyer <rschume...-EkmVulN54Sk@public.gmane.org > wrote: > > > I installed Instant Rails on a variety of WinXP systems. I find that > > > running commands like "ruby script/generate model xyz" run *very* > > > slowly...anywhere from 4 seconds to 20 seconds (intolerable). I''m not > > > > > talking about running an app via apache or fastcgi or mongrel...I''m > > just > > > trying to generate models and controllers, run rake, etc. > > > > It shouldn''t be that slow. I would suggest running rails without the > > Instant Rails package. I haven''t tried Instant Rails in a long time, > > so I don''t remember what versions of Ruby and Gems that it''s got. > > > The One-Click Ruby Installer and and Instant Rails are my two main open > source projects, and I use the One-Click Ruby Installer as the Ruby the > ships inside of Instant Rails. So, their should not be any diffeence between > installing the pieces by hand or using Instant Rails. > > Curt > > > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 2/9/07, Curt Hibbs <ml.chibbs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 2/9/07, Richard Conroy <richard.conroy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > I stopped using Instant Rails a long time ago. Its a nice idea, but > > when it broke it broke bad. And I was ''forced'' to install Rails properly, > > which is what I should have been doing anyway. > > > I''d be interested to know what problems you had.Sorry Curt, I didn''t properly document them, but trying to remember it, it was more at the MySql end where things broke. I can''t remember precisely, I wasn''t as experienced then, but some forum members got me an install based on 1-click, gem install rails, gem install mongrel & gem install sqlite (after some DLL foolery) which got me up and running. I have been running some variants of that since (changing DB mostly). I am not ruling out the possibility that I messed up something big time, or that some WinXP firewall setting change broke something that Instant Rails needed.> CurtRichard. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---