Rails - Jan 2007 - [OT] Suggestions on SVN client for OS X

Hello all,

I am looking for some suggestions on a good Subversion client for use on OS
X. I have tried SmartSVN, an excellent program but only free for
non-commercial projects, and svnX which is more Mac like, but has to be one
of the most confusing programs I have ever used. I really don''t like
the
split that it makes between repositories and local copies.

So, since a ton of people seem to be using Macs on this list, I thought I
would ask what clients people are using.

Chris
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Hi!

On Jan 28, 2:13 pm, "Chris Johnston"
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wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am looking for some suggestions on a good Subversion client for use on OS
> X. I have tried SmartSVN, an excellent program but only free for
> non-commercial projects, and svnX which is more Mac like, but has to be one
> of the most confusing programs I have ever used. I really don''t
like the
> split that it makes between repositories and local copies.
>
> So, since a ton of people seem to be using Macs on this list, I thought I
> would ask what clients people are using.
Whats wrong with subversion from the command line?  You can install it 
using macports.  Also, if you Textmate, check out the SVN bundle.


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bryanl wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Jan 28, 2:13 pm, "Chris Johnston"
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>   
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am looking for some suggestions on a good Subversion client for use
on OS
>> X. I have tried SmartSVN, an excellent program but only free for
>> non-commercial projects, and svnX which is more Mac like, but has to be
one
>> of the most confusing programs I have ever used. I really
don''t like the
>> split that it makes between repositories and local copies.
>>
>> So, since a ton of people seem to be using Macs on this list, I thought
I
>> would ask what clients people are using.
>>     
>
> Whats wrong with subversion from the command line?  You can install it 
> using macports.  Also, if you Textmate, check out the SVN bundle.
>   
Is Textmate a verb now? :)

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On Jan 29, 6:13 am, "Chris Johnston"
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wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am looking for some suggestions on a good Subversion client for use on OS
> X. I have tried SmartSVN, an excellent program but only free for
> non-commercial projects, and svnX which is more Mac like, but has to be one
> of the most confusing programs I have ever used. I really don''t
like the
> split that it makes between repositories and local copies.
>
> So, since a ton of people seem to be using Macs on this list, I thought I
> would ask what clients people are using.
>
> Chris
> --www.fuzzylizard.com
>
> You know you''ve achieved perfection in design, Not when you have
nothing
> more to add, But when you have nothing more to take away.
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

I prefer the command line (installed using http://www.codingmonkeys.de/
mbo/).
There is this (http://zigzig.com/content/view/15/29/), which works but 
needs more development on the interface (IMHO).  Development seems to 
have stopped though....


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check out ''svnX''.  It is a very simple client, but it works
and it has
nice integration to Apple''s FileMerge diff utility.

http://www.lachoseinteractive.net/en/community/subversion/svnx/
features/

Adam

On Jan 28, 12:29 pm, "askegg"
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wrote:
> On Jan 29, 6:13 am, "Chris Johnston"
<fuzzyliz...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello all,
>
> > I am looking for some suggestions on a good Subversion client for use
on OS
> > X. I have tried SmartSVN, an excellent program but only free for
> > non-commercial projects, and svnX which is more Mac like, but has to
be one
> > of the most confusing programs I have ever used. I really
don''t like the
> > split that it makes between repositories and local copies.
>
> > So, since a ton of people seem to be using Macs on this list, I
thought I
> > would ask what clients people are using.
>
> > Chris
> > --www.fuzzylizard.com
>
> > You know you''ve achieved perfection in design, Not when you
have nothing
> > more to add, But when you have nothing more to take away.
> > - Antoine de Saint-ExuperyI prefer the command line (installed
usinghttp://www.codingmonkeys.de/
> mbo/).
> There is this (http://zigzig.com/content/view/15/29/), which works but
> needs more development on the interface (IMHO).  Development seems to
> have stopped though....

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I use svnX (http://www.lachoseinteractive.net/en/community/subversion/
svnx/features/) or the Eclipse Subclipse plugin in combination with 
Mylar (another great Eclipse plugin).



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There''s not a really great SVN GUI client out for mac (or pc for that
matter). I guess I''m spoiled coming from perforce originally.

But like the others I''ll echo their recommendations and go with svnX
and
Textmate.........

I use a combo of both with the command line to get things done.

On 1/28/07, merg <demerg-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
>
> I use svnX (http://www.lachoseinteractive.net/en/community/subversion/
> svnx/features/) or the Eclipse Subclipse plugin in combination with
> Mylar (another great Eclipse plugin).
>
>
>
> >
>

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I use the free version of SmartSVN just fine, but I guess I don''t need 
the "advanced" features.  Though I''m using the command line
more and
more now anyways.

On Jan 28, 8:13 pm, "Chris Johnston"
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wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am looking for some suggestions on a good Subversion client for use on OS
> X. I have tried SmartSVN, an excellent program but only free for
> non-commercial projects, and svnX which is more Mac like, but has to be one
> of the most confusing programs I have ever used. I really don''t
like the
> split that it makes between repositories and local copies.
>
> So, since a ton of people seem to be using Macs on this list, I thought I
> would ask what clients people are using.
>
> Chris
> --www.fuzzylizard.com
>
> You know you''ve achieved perfection in design, Not when you have
nothing
> more to add, But when you have nothing more to take away.
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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So far the clear winners are the command line and svnX. I have the command
line client installed and have started to use it a little bit. Although, my
first attempt at that completely killed my setup in SmartSVN for some
reason. Apparently the two do not like to play together. Anyone else have
this?

I think I may give svnX another try. Initially I was put off by the rather
odd UI, but there may be an excellent program sitting in behind waiting to
be discovered.

As for SmartSVN, I really like it as well. However, I am starting to work on
a commercial web app and can''t continue to use it without violating the
license (as far as I remember).

Thanks for the suggestions.

Chris

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Chris Johnston wrote:
> So far the clear winners are the command line and svnX.
I don''t know if anyone else has pointed out the common practice here.

Add a rake task called either ci or submit. Mine looks like this:

task(:submit => [:cook, :test]) do
  comment = ENV[''comment''] || ENV[''m'']
  comment = ''refactor''  if not comment or ''''
== comment
  sh ''svn commit -m "'' + comment +
''"''
end

(:cook is another custom task that runs db:migrate on each environment.)

Call that like this:

    rake submit m=''inflatable squirrel carcass''

Because you want to run all the recent tests after every few edits, you 
should have a command line open at all times. And each time you integrate, 
something should run all the tests first to gate the submission. So you 
should stay in the command line, and not rely on mouse-abuse...

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> Add a rake task called either ci or submit. Mine looks like this:
>
> task(:submit => [:cook, :test]) do
>   comment = ENV[''comment''] || ENV[''m'']
>   comment = ''refactor''  if not comment or
'''' == comment
>   sh ''svn commit -m "'' + comment +
''"''
> end
Interesting... I wonder if there''s a way to first have it call
"rake
test" and only commit if all the tests pass?

Jeff


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Jeff wrote:
>> Add a rake task called either ci or submit. Mine looks like this:
>>
>> task(:submit => [:cook, :test]) do
>>   comment = ENV[''comment''] ||
ENV[''m'']
>>   comment = ''refactor''  if not comment or
'''' == comment
>>   sh ''svn commit -m "'' + comment +
''"''
>> end
> 
> Interesting... I wonder if there''s a way to first have it call
"rake
> test" and only commit if all the tests pass?
Besides the :submit => [:cook, :test] dependency?

;-)

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On Jan 29, 6:49 am, "Phlip"
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>Besides the :submit => [:cook, :test] dependency?

Doh!  Thanks!


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<...>
> I have the command
> line client installed and have started to use it a little bit. Although, my
> first attempt at that completely killed my setup in SmartSVN for some
> reason. Apparently the two do not like to play together. Anyone else have
> this?
<...>

Newest versions of SmartSVN convert working copy to the newer format, so if your
command line client is older than 1.4 you won''t be able to use both on
the same working copy. The solution is either to use older version of
SmartSVN (2.0.x I believe) or to upgrade command line client to
version 1.4.
Not sure if it is what heppended in your case though.

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There is also a project kicking around called SCPlugin. Details are 
sketchy, but it appears that a new build has been posted recently (the 
project appeared to be dead for a while). It mimics the behavior of 
Windows clients like Tortoise, adding SVN status badges to the file 
icons in Finder. It''s not without its bugs, but I have it installed, 
and it''s a welcome addition to my combination of svnX and TextMate.

http://scplugin.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList



On Jan 29, 10:21 am, "Rimantas Liubertas"
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> <...>> I have the command
> > line client installed and have started to use it a little bit.
Although, my
> > first attempt at that completely killed my setup in SmartSVN for some
> > reason. Apparently the two do not like to play together. Anyone else
have
> > this?<...>
>
> Newest versions of SmartSVN convert working copy to the newer format, so if
your
> command line client is older than 1.4 you won''t be able to use
both on
> the same working copy. The solution is either to use older version of
> SmartSVN (2.0.x I believe) or to upgrade command line client to
> version 1.4.
> Not sure if it is what heppended in your case though.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Rimantas
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I''m using svnX currently.  I''ve found I need to do my
delete''s in a
very specific order to get it to work properly (Don''t delete the file 
on the local drive or your hosed, always delete it through svnX, I 
imagine it''s the same for renames).  Something along the lines of 
TortoiseSVN for windows would make me very happy.

I am very impressed with Apple''s FileMerge utility that svnX uses, 
though.

On Jan 29, 11:45 am, "rsch...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
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wrote:
> There is also a project kicking around called SCPlugin. Details are
> sketchy, but it appears that a new build has been posted recently (the
> project appeared to be dead for a while). It mimics the behavior of
> Windows clients like Tortoise, adding SVN status badges to the file
> icons in Finder. It''s not without its bugs, but I have it
installed,
> and it''s a welcome addition to my combination of svnX and
TextMate.
>
> http://scplugin.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList
>
> On Jan 29, 10:21 am, "Rimantas Liubertas"
<riman...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > <...>> I have the command
> > > line client installed and have started to use it a little bit.
Although, my
> > > first attempt at that completely killed my setup in SmartSVN for
some
> > > reason. Apparently the two do not like to play together. Anyone
else have
> > > this?<...>
>
> > Newest versions of SmartSVN convert working copy to the newer format,
so if your
> > command line client is older than 1.4 you won''t be able to
use both on
> > the same working copy. The solution is either to use older version of
> > SmartSVN (2.0.x I believe) or to upgrade command line client to
> > version 1.4.
> > Not sure if it is what heppended in your case though.
>
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Rimantas
> > --http://rimantas.com/

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John Huffaker <jhuffaker-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I''m using svnX currently.  I''ve found I need to do my
delete''s in a
> very specific order to get it to work properly (Don''t delete the
file
> on the local drive or your hosed, always delete it through svnX, I
> imagine it''s the same for renames).
That''s because any GUI tool here would wrap the command line
equivalent...

  svn rm foo   #  erase foo from both the file system and codebase
  svn mv bar foo   #  rename foo in both places

One wonders if Rails works with any other version controller. Don''t
please answer - they are probably pluggable...

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