Hi, I am currently looking to expand my ROR development team (too much work, only 2 hands per developer :) ). The problem is, in Israel at least, that there are almost no ROR stated developers to be found, i find myself in many cases explaining the technology to people who come to interview that know PHP, ASP, .NET or JAVA. So i really would be happy to compile a profile for a beginner ROR developer, meaning, i want to know what base knowledge does this person need in order to be prepared for a ROR jump start. I Already compiled a few Elements. Critical: HTML JS XHTML Standards (at least) Database structure and rational Needed: Server side language i''ll be happy to get more data.. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Shalom Elad Elad Meidar wrote:> Hi, > > I am currently looking to expand my ROR development team (too much work, > only 2 hands per developer :) ). > > The problem is, in Israel at least, that there are almost no ROR stated > developers to be found,Well, you have to look carefully ;-) There''s no established Ruby users group in Israel, and generally most of the developers are either Microserfs or PHP-heads. So the few who know and use Ruby/Rails tend to be of the lone-wolf sort. However, because of the higher entry barrier, those who actually make the effort of finding out and keeping up to date with such cutting edge technologies are generally pretty proficient.> i find myself in many cases explaining the > technology to people who come to interview that know PHP, ASP, .NET or > JAVA. > > So i really would be happy to compile a profile for a beginner ROR > developer, meaning, i want to know what base knowledge does this person > need in order to be prepared for a ROR jump start. > > I Already compiled a few Elements. > > Critical: > HTML > JS > XHTML Standards (at least) > Database structure and rational > > Needed: > Server side language > > i''ll be happy to get more data..I think the major, most important skill is experience programming in dynamic languages. Obviously, the more similar to Ruby - the better, so if you can find anyone with substantial Ruby experience - grab him immediately. But there are several very similar languages. First of all Python, which is very similar to Ruby, and is also dynamically and strongly typed. Perl is somewhat less ideal - it''s weakly typed, and despite the myth is much less Rubyish than Python. Generally, I think web experience is less important than the above programming experience. I.E., if someone has lots of experience developing large and complex applications in Ruby or Python, the shift to Rails should be pretty smooth. After all, RoR itself is nothing but a large and fairly complex Ruby application. Those who understand RoR best are those who grok it as a large Ruby program. That requires a solid understanding of e.g. OOP concepts rather than memorization of CSS2 techniques. Also, there are languages with similar design streaks - like Smalltalk (though I doubt you''d find many in Israel), Lisp, and particularly Scheme (find people who *really* enjoyed "Extended Introduction to CS" on the TAU CS program ;). It''s always nice to talk to an Israeli Rubyist/Railer, so you''re welcome to contact me at alder.green-Re5JQEeQqe9fmgfxC/sS/w@public.gmane.org Regards, -Alder -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Ma Nishma, Keep it going, feel free to drop me an email or use my IM alias I''m not in Israel though, but Florida! michaelssteinfeld-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org mike On 1/4/07, Alder <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > Shalom Elad > > Elad Meidar wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am currently looking to expand my ROR development team (too much work, > > only 2 hands per developer :) ). > > > > The problem is, in Israel at least, that there are almost no ROR stated > > developers to be found, > > Well, you have to look carefully ;-) > > There''s no established Ruby users group in Israel, and generally most of > the developers are either Microserfs or PHP-heads. So the few who know > and use Ruby/Rails tend to be of the lone-wolf sort. > > However, because of the higher entry barrier, those who actually make > the effort of finding out and keeping up to date with such cutting edge > technologies are generally pretty proficient. > > > i find myself in many cases explaining the > > technology to people who come to interview that know PHP, ASP, .NET or > > JAVA. > > > > So i really would be happy to compile a profile for a beginner ROR > > developer, meaning, i want to know what base knowledge does this person > > need in order to be prepared for a ROR jump start. > > > > I Already compiled a few Elements. > > > > Critical: > > HTML > > JS > > XHTML Standards (at least) > > Database structure and rational > > > > Needed: > > Server side language > > > > i''ll be happy to get more data.. > > I think the major, most important skill is experience programming in > dynamic languages. Obviously, the more similar to Ruby - the better, so > if you can find anyone with substantial Ruby experience - grab him > immediately. But there are several very similar languages. First of all > Python, which is very similar to Ruby, and is also dynamically and > strongly typed. > > Perl is somewhat less ideal - it''s weakly typed, and despite the myth is > much less Rubyish than Python. > > Generally, I think web experience is less important than the above > programming experience. I.E., if someone has lots of experience > developing large and complex applications in Ruby or Python, the shift > to Rails should be pretty smooth. After all, RoR itself is nothing but a > large and fairly complex Ruby application. Those who understand RoR best > are those who grok it as a large Ruby program. That requires a solid > understanding of e.g. OOP concepts rather than memorization of CSS2 > techniques. > > Also, there are languages with similar design streaks - like Smalltalk > (though I doubt you''d find many in Israel), Lisp, and particularly > Scheme (find people who *really* enjoyed "Extended Introduction to CS" > on the TAU CS program ;). > > It''s always nice to talk to an Israeli Rubyist/Railer, so you''re welcome > to contact me at alder.green-Re5JQEeQqe9fmgfxC/sS/w@public.gmane.org > > Regards, > -Alder > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >-- -mike --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---