Rails - May 2006 - How to determine if an object has just been created

Is there a built-in way to determine if a model object has just been
created (ie. this object was the one that was originally persisted)? I
can''t see it anywhere in the AR code, but thought I''d check. I
want
something like:

p = Person.create
p.original_instance? # true

Is this built-in or should I just patch AR?

-Jonathan.

Jonathan Viney wrote:
> Is there a built-in way to determine if a model object has just been
> created (ie. this object was the one that was originally persisted)? I
> can''t see it anywhere in the AR code, but thought I''d
check. I want
> something like:
> 
> p = Person.create
> p.original_instance? # true
> 
> Is this built-in or should I just patch AR?
Not sure quite what you''re after, but does p.new_record? do the trick?
-- 
Alex

On 5/19/06, Jonathan Viney <jonathan.viney@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Is there a built-in way to determine if a model object has just been
> created (ie. this object was the one that was originally persisted)? I
> can''t see it anywhere in the AR code, but thought I''d
check. I want
> something like:
>
> p = Person.create
> p.original_instance? # true
>
> Is this built-in or should I just patch AR?
>
> -Jonathan.
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I don''t think there''s a built-in way to do that...but it seems
like
it''d be pretty simple.

def original_instance?
  !new_record? && created_at == updated_at
end

and just add created_at and updated_at fields to your model.

Pat

> I don''t think there''s a built-in way to do that...but it
seems like
> it''d be pretty simple.
From documentation:

new_record?
Returns true if this object hasn''t been saved yet ? that is, a record
for the object doesn''t exist yet.


Regards,
Rimantas
--
http://rimantas.com/

On 5/19/06, Rimantas Liubertas <rimantas@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > I don''t think there''s a built-in way to do
that...but it seems like
> > it''d be pretty simple.
>
> From documentation:
>
> new_record?
> Returns true if this object hasn''t been saved yet ? that is, a
record
> for the object doesn''t exist yet.
>From the OP:
"this object was the one that was originally persisted"

new_record? tells you if the object hasn''t been saved.  OP is asking
how to tell if the record is the original one.  My interpretation is
basically that the object hasn''t been modified at all.  The easiest
way to do that (though perhaps not fool-proof) is to compare the
updated_at and created_at fields.  In fact, I used new_record? in my
code.

Another possibility is acts_as_versioned, which may be more air-tight
than my solution (though I don''t know if there are any problems with
it, I just came up with it).

Pat

The reason for doing this is to be able to send emails when certain
models are created and/or changed. I realised just after I made the
post that I should use AR callbacks (after_create and after_update) on
the models, and possibly an observer.

Thanks, -Jonathan.

On 5/19/06, Pat Maddox <pergesu@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/19/06, Rimantas Liubertas <rimantas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I don''t think there''s a built-in way to do
that...but it seems like
> > > it''d be pretty simple.
> >
> > From documentation:
> >
> > new_record?
> > Returns true if this object hasn''t been saved yet ? that is,
a record
> > for the object doesn''t exist yet.
>
> >From the OP:
> "this object was the one that was originally persisted"
>
> new_record? tells you if the object hasn''t been saved.  OP is
asking
> how to tell if the record is the original one.  My interpretation is
> basically that the object hasn''t been modified at all.  The
easiest
> way to do that (though perhaps not fool-proof) is to compare the
> updated_at and created_at fields.  In fact, I used new_record? in my
> code.
>
> Another possibility is acts_as_versioned, which may be more air-tight
> than my solution (though I don''t know if there are any problems
with
> it, I just came up with it).
>
> Pat
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