Hi, I recently asked my webhost if they''d consider supporting Rails and, to my surprise and delight, they''ve decided to setup a test server to give it a trial with a select few customers. Only trouble is, they have a policy of not allowing SSH. So my question is, does Rails strictly require SSH, or is it something that can be worked around? What are the issues if SSH isn''t supported, and is it something just not worth trying without it? Many thanks, Charles -- Charles Roper www.charlesroper.co.uk
Having SSH is not a show stopper. As long as you know the path to the ruby installation and you do all of your development work locally it shouldn''t be a big deal. You would need to update the dispatch.cgi or dispatch.fcgi to point to the correct ruby path. Along with updating any permissions, e.g. the dispatch.cgi needs to be 755 However, they will need to provide a way to create symbolic links to point to the public directories of your rails installation or they will have to manually change their web server to point to the correct public directory. Personally, I would never buy a hosting account without the option of SSH, but I am a command line junky. -- Joe Clarke http://railsplayground.com On 10/10/05, Charles Roper <charles.roper-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi, > > I recently asked my webhost if they''d consider supporting Rails and, > to my surprise and delight, they''ve decided to setup a test server to > give it a trial with a select few customers. Only trouble is, they > have a policy of not allowing SSH. So my question is, does Rails > strictly require SSH, or is it something that can be worked around? > What are the issues if SSH isn''t supported, and is it something just > not worth trying without it? > > Many thanks, > > Charles > > -- > Charles Roper > www.charlesroper.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 19:22 +0100, Charles Roper wrote:> Hi, > > I recently asked my webhost if they''d consider supporting Rails and, > to my surprise and delight, they''ve decided to setup a test server to > give it a trial with a select few customers. Only trouble is, they > have a policy of not allowing SSH. So my question is, does Rails > strictly require SSH, or is it something that can be worked around? > What are the issues if SSH isn''t supported, and is it something just > not worth trying without it?If your host only allows FTP and not SSH... then they have issues with security. :-/ Might look at the list of hosting providers and consider switching. http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/RailsWebHosts FTP sends your password over the Internet in plain text..which is so 1998. Cheers, -Robby -- /****************************************************** * Robby Russell, Owner.Developer.Geek * PLANET ARGON, Open Source Solutions & Web Hosting * Portland, Oregon | p: 503.351.4730 | f: 815.642.4068 * www.planetargon.com | www.robbyonrails.com * Programming Rails | www.programmingrails.com *******************************************************/
Joe, many thanks for the info - I''ll pass your message onto my host. On 10/10/05, Robby Russell <robby.lists-/Lcn8Y7Ot69QmPsQ1CNsNQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> If your host only allows FTP and not SSH... then they have issues with > security. :-/They have FTP over TLS, so I think it''s safe enough, although I''m no expert on such things.> Might look at the list of hosting providers and consider switching.I do also have a TextDrive VCII account, so I''m alright there. The other host holds my reseller account; they''re rock solid, have excellent support and are in the UK, so I''m getting the best of both worlds. :) Many thanks for the replies chaps. Charles -- Charles Roper www.charlesroper.co.uk
On 10/10/05, Charles Roper <charles.roper@gmail.com> wrote:> I recently asked my webhost if they'd consider supporting Rails and, > to my surprise and delight, they've decided to setup a test server to > give it a trial with a select few customers. Only trouble is, they > have a policy of not allowing SSH. So my question is, does Rails > strictly require SSH, or is it something that can be worked around? > What are the issues if SSH isn't supported, and is it something just > not worth trying without it?The predecessor to SSH was telnet and like FTP was described by another poster, it sends your password in plain text. Much of the goodness of Rails lies in command line functionality. To not have a shell when using Rails would be fairly difficult if not impossible. To not have a secure shell would make me lose sleep at night. I find if a web host isn't already into pushing out Rails for client consumption it's really not worth the effort getting them to 'try it." It's much easier to find a host that endorses using Rails on their servers from the start so you will have decent support when something goes wrong. If you need a recommendation for a Rails host I can recommend one off-list. -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer MySQL Core Certification http://destiney.com/ _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails