Rails - Oct 2005 - [OT] New Pragmatic BETA book + P3 of Rails book

As many of us know, the Beta Rails Book "experiment" seems to have 
worked out great.  Last night I was ordering the Ship It! + Behind 
Closed Doors combo from them, and when I clicked on Continue Shopping I 
discovered this:

   http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/ajax/index.html

Which I couldn''t otherwise find coming into the front end of their 
store.  So I ordered it.  It''s pretty good - I''d call it
"Alpha" or even
earlier at this point, but I''m satisfied thus far.  It does take out 
some of the mystery, for instance, in Google Maps.

Additionally, P3.0 of the Rails book is up as of 9/29, so go reorder it 
now if you own the PDF!

   http://books.pragprog.com/titles/rails/reorder

[Side Note: I wish they''d automatically (optionally) email PDF owners 
when PDFs are updated!]

--Steve

I''ll second this.

I ordered this ''alpha'' book and it''s neat so far. The
rails books was a
great experience and I''m looking forward to this as well.

> From: Stephen Waits <steve-g8GSkY9QmIteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
> Reply-To: <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:55:20 -0700
> To: <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
> Subject: [Rails] [OT] New Pragmatic BETA book + P3 of Rails book
> 
> 
> As many of us know, the Beta Rails Book "experiment" seems to
have
> worked out great.  Last night I was ordering the Ship It! + Behind
> Closed Doors combo from them, and when I clicked on Continue Shopping I
> discovered this:
> 
>    http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/ajax/index.html
> 
> Which I couldn''t otherwise find coming into the front end of their
> store.  So I ordered it.  It''s pretty good - I''d call it
"Alpha" or even
> earlier at this point, but I''m satisfied thus far.  It does take
out
> some of the mystery, for instance, in Google Maps.
> 
> Additionally, P3.0 of the Rails book is up as of 9/29, so go reorder it
> now if you own the PDF!
> 
>    http://books.pragprog.com/titles/rails/reorder
> 
> [Side Note: I wish they''d automatically (optionally) email PDF
owners
> when PDFs are updated!]
> 
> --Steve
> 
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Stephen Waits wrote:
> [Side Note: I wish they''d automatically (optionally) email PDF
owners
> when PDFs are updated!]
Yes, this is kinda silly. They have all the info there, so why not send 
a (hashed) link to everybody when an update comes out. Typing in all 
those infos when an update comes out is really not very user friendly, 
is it?

Sascha

Speaking of which, is there a similar reprinting / re-ordering 
capability for the Pickaxe book??

Sascha Ebach wrote:
> Stephen Waits wrote:
>
>> [Side Note: I wish they''d automatically (optionally) email PDF
owners
>> when PDFs are updated!]
>
>
> Yes, this is kinda silly. They have all the info there, so why not 
> send a (hashed) link to everybody when an update comes out. Typing in 
> all those infos when an update comes out is really not very user 
> friendly, is it?
>
> Sascha
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M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

http://www.borasky-research.net/
http://borasky-research.blogspot.com/

http://pdxneurosemantics.com
http://pdx-sales-coach.com
http://algocompsynth.com

I had a discussion with someone from Pragmatic Programmers about this
about a month ago, and their current website code won''t support this.
They are working on a new website and they are trying to come up with
a solution that satifies everyone online from the paranoid to the
trusting(better antonym for paranoid?)

- Michael

On 10/10/05, Sascha Ebach
<se-eFwX6J65rk9VioaHkBSlcw02NpfuEekPhC4ANOJQIlc@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Stephen Waits wrote:
> > [Side Note: I wish they''d automatically (optionally) email
PDF owners
> > when PDFs are updated!]
>
> Yes, this is kinda silly. They have all the info there, so why not send
> a (hashed) link to everybody when an update comes out. Typing in all
> those infos when an update comes out is really not very user friendly,
> is it?
>
> Sascha
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On Oct 10, 2005, at 3:57 AM, Sascha Ebach wrote:
> Stephen Waits wrote:
>
>> [Side Note: I wish they''d automatically (optionally) email PDF
>> owners when PDFs are updated!]
>>
>
> Yes, this is kinda silly. They have all the info there, so why not  
> send a (hashed) link to everybody when an update comes out. Typing  
> in all those infos when an update comes out is really not very user  
> friendly, is it?
Yeah, why don''t these guys get off their duff and revolutionize book  
publishing and distribution??

;-)


   adam

On 10/10/05, Michael King <kingmt-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> They are working on a new website and they are trying to come up with
> a solution that satifies everyone online from the paranoid to the
> trusting(better antonym for paranoid?)
How about "foolishly optimistic"? Heh.

Wilson Bilkovich wrote:
>On 10/10/05, Michael King
<kingmt-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>  
>
>>They are working on a new website and they are trying to come up with
>>a solution that satifies everyone online from the paranoid to the
>>trusting(better antonym for paranoid?)
>>    
>>
>
>How about "foolishly optimistic"? Heh.
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>  
>
Perhaps, revive each individual''s original download link, 
automatically.   If you go to your original download link, it 
regenerates a PDF for you based on the most recent version of the book 
to which you are entitled.  This would mean that the first hit would say 
"Please come back in an hour to get it" but it would eliminate 
generating stuff for people who were not interested, and allow a mass 
email to go out "Go to your original download link and get your
updates"
which should satisfy the paranoid.

On Oct 10, 2005, at 6:29 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> Speaking of which, is there a similar reprinting / re-ordering  
> capability for the Pickaxe book??
Not that I''ve been able to find.  If you find that please let the  
list know!

--Steve

On Oct 10, 2005, at 2:57 AM, Sascha Ebach wrote:
>
> Yes, this is kinda silly. They have all the info there, so why not  
> send a (hashed) link to everybody when an update comes out. Typing  
> in all those infos when an update comes out is really not very user  
> friendly, is it?
One of the decisions we made early on was not to require to to have  
an account with us. As a result, we don''t keep profile data on folks,  
and we have nowhere to store the "email me on change" flag.
That''s
also why you have to identify your PDF when you reorder.

We''re also trying to be sensitive to folks who don''t want to
get
emails every time we fix a typo.

We''re starting to write a brand new store (but it''s taking a
back
seat to other stuff at the moment) which will give us a whole lot  
more functionality. We may well add the ability to register for  
updates to it.


Cheers


Dave

On Oct 10, 2005, at 10:10 AM, Grant Johnson wrote:
> Perhaps, revive each individual''s original download link,  
> automatically.   If you go to your original download link, it  
> regenerates a PDF for you based on the most recent version of the  
> book to which you are entitled.  This would mean that the first hit  
> would say "Please come back in an hour to get it" but it would  
> eliminate generating stuff for people who were not interested, and  
> allow a mass email to go out "Go to your original download link and  
> get your updates" which should satisfy the paranoid.
That''s nice, but has a couple of problems. First, it takes a few  
seconds to generate each PDF, which means if we recreate them all at  
once, it would take quite a while. The current way, doing it on  
demand, spreads that load for us.

The second issue is that there''s no DRM on the PDFs. That means if  
download links every leaked, folks could just use them to get PDFs.  
The current way tries to ensure that the person asking for a PDF is  
the original owner.

As with all things, it''s a compromise: we don''t want to be
intrusive,
and we don''t want to make it too easy for PDFs to escape into the wild.


Dave

On Oct 10, 2005, at 8:29 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> Speaking of which, is there a similar reprinting / re-ordering  
> capability for the Pickaxe book??
Not yet.

We''re going to be moving all books across to the new system during  
the next couple of months, and then announce that all PDFs are  
upodatable.

Cheers


Dave

List,

I have a simple mixin (I got the code from the list archives) to create
UUID''s for me.  The code is like:

module UUIDHelper
  def before_create()
    sql = "SELECT UUID()"   
    record = connection.select_one(sql, " #{name} UUID generated")
    self.id = record[''UUID()'']
  end
end


# use a mixin to create a UUID helper
class MyModle < ActiveRecord::Base
	include UUIDHelper
end


I have about 7 other models that need access to this UUID helper.  Is there
some way to make something like a super class so that I can just include the
UUIDhelper in all my models with out creating the module before the classes?
Whats the best way to approach this?

Thanks,

Robi

Dave Thomas wrote:
> We''re also trying to be sensitive to folks who don''t want
to get  emails
> every time we fix a typo.
Just include a link in the email to deactivate this behaviour. What if I 
am more sensitive to not getting notified of every fixed typo than the 
sensitive people who are annoyed at too many messages? ;) I really
don''t
believe that you would loose customers over this.
> We''re starting to write a brand new store (but it''s
taking a back  seat
> to other stuff at the moment) which will give us a whole lot  more 
> functionality. We may well add the ability to register for  updates to it.
Hopefully so. Looking forward to that.

Sascha

Has much changed in the latest version of the book?  Can someone point me to a
list of changes?

- steve

Steve Dp wrote:
> Has much changed in the latest version of the book?  Can someone point me
to a
> list of changes?
http://books.pragprog.com/titles/rails/errata

--Steve

http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10042
 Well other publishers are taking a similar approach. Here''s another
Ajax
book that you can purchase also purchase as an ebook first.

 On 10/10/05, Wilson Bilkovich
<wilsonb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> On 10/10/05, Michael King
<kingmt-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > They are working on a new website and they are trying to come up with
> > a solution that satifies everyone online from the paranoid to the
> > trusting(better antonym for paranoid?)
>
> How about "foolishly optimistic"? Heh.
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